Waters or Shields@ LT...Why not?

Marcellus · 07-30-2006, 08:53 AM

A few years ago if I recall, Shields played 3 or so games at LT. Maybe an option....

Or since Waters is supposed to be this athletic freak so why not try him at LT?

The obvious risk is you put 2 players in new starting positions rather than just the 1 at LT and it could further disrupt the line but if LT is such an important position,why not put one of your best guys there?

Not likely to happen but it was just a thought when I remembered Shields has started at LT in the past. (unless I am crazy and just made this up in my head)

Adept Havelock · 07-30-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

A few years ago if I recall, Shields played 3 or so games at LT. Maybe an option....

Or since Waters is supposed to be this athletic freak so why not try him at LT?

The obvious risk is you put 2 players in new starting positions rather than just the 1 at LT and it could further disrupt the line but if LT is such an important position,why not put one of your best guys there?

Not likely to happen but it was just a thought when I remembered Shields has started at LT in the past. (unless I am crazy and just made this up in my head)

Yes, he filled in there occasionally. I don't like the notion unless there is no other choice because I don't want to further disrupt the O-Line.

JBucc · 07-30-2006, 10:03 AM

I tossed around the idea of putting Waters at LT if Turley sucks or gets hurt. Then Black could play guard where I think he'd be more comfortable and Turley could go to RT. I think Waters can pretty much play any O-line position he wants to and I'd rather have him there than Shields since Shields would just be a one year fix and Waters can be our LT for a long time if it works out. And if not he can be our G for a long time.

Adept Havelock · 07-30-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

I tossed the idea of putting Waters at LT if Turley sucks or gets hurt. Then Black could play guard where I think he'd be more comfortable and Turley could go to RT. I think Waters can pretty much play any O-line position he wants to and I'd rather have him there than Shields since Shields would just be a one year fix and Waters can be our LT for a long time if it works out. And if not he can be our G for a long time.

Put that way, you just might have something. Anything beats another round of Highway 65 at LT.

jspchief · 07-30-2006, 10:22 AM

There's a reason these guys are guards instead of tackles in the first place.

**mlyonsd** · 07-30-2006, 10:25 AM

I think the prudent thing to do no matter who replaces Roaf at LT is to have our last string QB start every game and play 2, maybe 3 series in attempt to prove the replacement isn't going to get Green killed.

Frankie · 07-30-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

A few years ago if I recall, Shields played 3 or so games at LT. Maybe an option....

Two key phrases in your post should provide your answer:

1- "A few years ago."
2- "3 or so games at LT."

While Shields did very well at LT, he was younger and also didn't go an entire season in that demanding position.

Sure-Oz · 07-30-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

There's a reason these guys are guards instead of tackles in the first place.

exactly and it would just weaken our other positions, we jus need to go with the best guy and hope he can hold his own, that actually plays the OT pos.

jspchief · 07-30-2006, 10:55 AM

Tackle is one of the most valued positions on the field. If the Chiefs thought Shields was capable of playing there, he would have been moved there long before we ever sniffed Willie Roaf.

TRR · 07-30-2006, 11:12 AM

I got into a discussion an offseason or two ago about moving Shields to RT. Why would you move two of the best Guards in the game to tackle? It makes absolutely no sense. You fill the Right and Left Tackle position, and leave our trio in the middle alone.

Not even worth a discussion.

el borracho · 07-30-2006, 11:26 AM

So Casey Wiegman would be the only guy on the line playing the same position as last year? Sounds like the recipe for a ton of penalties and mistakes.

CoMoChief · 07-30-2006, 12:58 PM

Here's what I would like to see if possible:

LT - Turley
LG - Waters
C - Weigman
RG - Shields
RT - Sampson

IIRC Sampson was our starter at RT 2 seasons ago and did a damn fine job of it.

**Rausch** · 07-30-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

Here's what I would like to see if possible:

LT - Turley
LG - Waters
C - Weigman
RG - Shields
RT - Sampson

IIRC Sampson was our starter at RT 2 seasons ago and did a damn fine job of it.

Ditto.

Yeah, Turley is way undersized right now but he has at least been a solid T at one point. You know he CAN be a stud. Black just makes me fear for Green's life.

Feed Turley a high carb and jelly doughnut diet...

htismaqe · 07-30-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

I got into a discussion an offseason or two ago about moving Shields to RT. Why would you move two of the best Guards in the game to tackle? It makes absolutely no sense. You fill the Right and Left Tackle position, and leave our trio in the middle alone.

Not even worth a discussion.

Yep.

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JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $10004952	I tossed around the idea of putting Waters at LT if Turley sucks or gets hurt. Then Black could play guard where I think he'd be more comfortable and Turley could go to RT. I think Waters can pretty much play any O-line position he wants to and I'd rather have him there than Shields since Shields would just be a one year fix and Waters can be our LT for a long time if it works out. And if not he can be our G for a long time. Last edited by JBucc; 07-30-2006 at 10:22 AM..
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	There's a reason these guys are guards instead of tackles in the first place. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $-2196238	I think the prudent thing to do no matter who replaces Roaf at LT is to have our last string QB start every game and play 2, maybe 3 series in attempt to prove the replacement isn't going to get Green killed.
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Tackle is one of the most valued positions on the field. If the Chiefs thought Shields was capable of playing there, he would have been moved there long before we ever sniffed Willie Roaf. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9420185	I got into a discussion an offseason or two ago about moving Shields to RT. Why would you move two of the best Guards in the game to tackle? It makes absolutely no sense. You fill the Right and Left Tackle position, and leave our trio in the middle alone. Not even worth a discussion.
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el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $2539148	So Casey Wiegman would be the only guy on the line playing the same position as last year? Sounds like the recipe for a ton of penalties and mistakes.
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	Here's what I would like to see if possible: LT - Turley LG - Waters C - Weigman RG - Shields RT - Sampson IIRC Sampson was our starter at RT 2 seasons ago and did a damn fine job of it. __________________
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