Rookie Safeties.....Starters?

[hypersensitiveZO6]

I watched Pollard and Page in camp and have been hearing all the hype about these guys. They both have a nose for the ball and seem to be making improvements everyday in camp. They aren't any questions about drafting these guys now. I even had an encounter with Pollard at camp, and he was the nicest guy to me.


Me: "Are we going see some big hits this year?"

Bonecrusher: "Ohh yeah, (huge smile on his face) most definitely it's going happen."

Then I told him he looked forward to seeing him play and he thanked me.


These are the classy guys that end up being superstars.

I know you might not like the idea of two rookies in the secondary, but the safeties we have now may not perform, or may not keep up.

I'm not saying right off, but these guys look like the future of our safeties, and the future could come sooner than expected, IMO.


So........Could Pollard and Page start this year? If yes, when?

[Deberg_1990]

I could care less who starts in our secondary. As long as whoever starts improves our defense and makes plays period. I would have no heartache if Wesley ends up sitting.

[KChiefs1]

Pollard & Page = Cherry & Burruss

[hypersensitiveZO6]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I could care less who starts in our secondary. As long as whoever starts improves our defense and makes plays period. I would have no heartache if Wesley ends up sitting.

Good stuff.

For every play he makes, he fucks up 3.

That's the story of Wesley last year.

[jspchief]

I mentioned several times before the draft that the Safety position has one of the highest success rates in regards to rookies having quick success/impact. It was the reason I wanted to target a safety in the first two rounds.

To have a rookie start and have success this year at the safety position is not beyond reason. To have two rookies may be asking a little too much.

[hypersensitiveZO6]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I mentioned several times before the draft that the Safety position has one of the highest success rates in regards to rookies having quick success/impact. It was the reason I wanted to target a safety in the first two rounds.

To have a rookie start and have success this year at the safety position is not beyond reason. To have two rookies may be asking a little too much.

It may be asking too much....

But how long can we live with Wesley giving up big plays?

Will Knight's speed finally start being a huge problem, if it isn't already?

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by hyperliteZO6

It may be asking too much....

But how long can we live with Wesley giving up big plays?

Will Knight's speed finally start being a huge problem, if it isn't already?

You don't have to convince me. As far as I'm concerned, Greg Wesly is the weakest link of our defense at this point. And while Knight may have the smarts, he doesn't have the athleticism anymore to keep up with TEs in the league.

My guess is neither rookie will start, and Paige will get the first chance based on Wesley's pathetic play even though Pollard may be the better of the two. I can see Pollard taking Knight's spot late in the year when the work takes it's toll on Sammy.

[tk13]

Herm's starting safeties last year in NY:

Erik Coleman - 2004 2nd day pick
Kerry Rhodes - 2005 2nd day pick

And Coleman started as a rookie on that last Jets playoff team. Herm's definitely not afraid to play young safeties. The guy Coleman replaced was Jon McGraw, who was a 2nd round pick in 2002. Herm also had 2nd round rookie Justin Miller starting at CB opposite Law at the end of last year.

And despite that, the Jets finished 2nd in fewest passing yards allowed last year, 7th in yards/pass attempt against, and 5th in INT's. A bit of that is that they were behind a lot... so teams ran on them, but even then they still finished well in stats like INT's that are pretty impressive.

[hypersensitiveZO6]

Originally Posted by jspchief

You don't have to convince me. As far as I'm concerned, Greg Wesly is the weakest link of our defense at this point. And while Knight may have the smarts, he doesn't have the athleticism anymore to keep up with TEs in the league.

My guess is neither rookie will start, and Paige will get the first chance based on Wesley's pathetic play even though Pollard may be the better of the two. I can see Pollard taking Knight's spot late in the year when the work takes it's toll on Sammy.

They'll both get a chance.

I'll be interested to see how they compare to our current starters.

[Mecca]

Isn't this a welcome change from Vermiel who the veteran was starting no matter what..........

[hypersensitiveZO6]

Originally Posted by tk13

Herm's starting safeties last year in NY:

Erik Coleman - 2004 2nd day pick
Kerry Rhodes - 2005 2nd day pick

And Coleman started as a rookie on that last Jets playoff team. Herm's definitely not afraid to play young safeties. The guy Coleman replaced was Jon McGraw, who was a 2nd round pick in 2002. Herm also had 2nd round rookie Justin Miller starting at CB opposite Law at the end of last year.

And despite that, the Jets finished 2nd in fewest passing yards allowed last year, 7th in yards/pass attempt against, and 5th in INT's. A bit of that is that they were behind a lot... so teams ran on them, but even then they still finished well in stats like INT's that are pretty impressive.

It makes me think whoever is back in the secondary is going to fit.

Herm knows what he is doing, who should be out here, and who shouldn't be out there.

If it's not the rookies, maybe he'll straiten our current safeties.

How do the Safeties fit in the cover 2?

I'm not up to speed on it.

[Hammock Parties]

I think Wesley and Knight will start.

If either one gets hurt, they can kiss their job goodbye.

If either one struggles for more than a couple of games, they can kiss their job goodbye.

Personally, I am hoping the competition makes them both better. I'm still in love with Greg Wesley.

[hypersensitiveZO6]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I think Wesley and Knight will start.

If either one gets hurt, they can kiss their job goodbye.

If either one struggles for more than a couple of games, they can kiss their job goodbye.

Personally, I am hoping the competition makes them both better. I'm still in love with Greg Wesley.

Explanation, if possible.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by hyperliteZO6

Explanation, if possible.

GoChiefs: He has a nice ass.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by hyperliteZO6

Explanation, if possible.

I just like the way he plays the game. I've always been a big fan.