Hmm, I thought you peole said you could handle a rebuilding year.

CrazyHorse · 11:04 AM

You lied.

We are playing a bunch of young players. Trying to start a young QB we drafted. Turning the roster over. Something the Chiefs fans on this board have bitched about for years.

This is, for the most part, what you asked for.

Now I understand that bad play calling, and bad coaching weren't part of that. That isn't what I'm talking about. We have every right to complain about that.

I'm talking about rookie players that make mistakes, getting thrown under the bus. Especially Croyle.

Here are a few popular quotes from the past. "Oh, I could deal with the INTs and lost games that go with grooming a new QB". "As long as we are trying to build a winner" This trying to put a bandaid on a team that needs to get younger is just frustrating."

Then you have the audacity to blame Carl or Edwards for not starting him sooner. How can you blame them? They knew what your reaction would be better than you did. I'm not defending them. But instead calling you guys out.

I'm not saying that these players will be good players. I'm saying you're not holding up your end of the bargain.

I realize this thread wont be popular, but you should understand how silly some of you look. As a Chiefs fan, it's flustrating watching you clowns flip flop.

Merry Christmas.

**the Talking Can** · 12-24-2007, 09:04 AM

this wasn't a rebuilding year....and us Croyle supporters have been on record that KC fans can't handle developing a QB since long before you showed up....

Demonpenz · 12-24-2007, 09:05 AM

We would take the rebuilding the proper way with average to below average coaching. We could take normal mistakes. Not this drunkan reerun assback wards "HEY i HAVE NEVER COACHED A FOOTBALL GAME IN MY LIFE' Stupid mother ****ing way this ****ing orginazation is being ****ing run. This whole Ok we are rebuilding is now a cop out because the whole team is garbage. The only reason some of these young players is not because of the coaches choice it is because of injuries.

CrazyHorse · 12-24-2007, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

We would take the rebuilding the proper way with average to below average coaching. We could take normal mistakes. Not this drunkan reerun assback wards "HEY i HAVE NEVER COACHED A FOOTBALL GAME IN MY LIFE' Stupid mother ****ing way this ****ing orginazation is being ****ing run. This whole Ok we are rebuilding is now a cop out because the whole team is garbage. The only reason some of these young players is not because of the coaches choice it is because of injuries.

I'n not talking about coaching. I'm talking about how you guys rag on the players without giving them a reasonable chance to succeed. Read the post again.

CrazyHorse · 12-24-2007, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Bong

this wasn't a rebuilding year....and us Croyle supporters have been on record that KC fans can't handle developing a QB since long before you showed up....

I showed up before you showed up. If you dont fit into the criteria above, then dont take offense to it.

Demonpenz · 12-24-2007, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

I'n not talking about coaching. I'm talking about how you guys rag on the players without giving them a reasonable chance to succeed. Read the post again.

No I don't read the posts just the titles

smittysbar · 12-24-2007, 09:13 AM

Well if it would have actually been a rebuilding year would have helped.

I am pretty sure most were pissed that we threw away most of the year with Huard and now will have a high draft pick but will not know if we have the QBOTF on the roster, because 4 starts is not enough time to evaluate a QB.

If this was a rebuilding year then why did we cut Justin Phinisee (who looked great in TC and Preseason) for Drummond? Or why did Priest start in front of Kolby?

It is a rebuilding year now that the team sucks, but just food for thought, Herm put this team together and thought this could be a playoff team. Kinda tells us how good is evaluation and coaching of players really is.

Rasputin · 12-24-2007, 09:14 AM

On a rebuilding year, you start with the youth and you look for improvement through out the year. We started with old decaying players & went over half the season with them before we started to see any youth and then they get less than half a season to get better and the team has regressed over the year not gotten any better. We still have questions at key spots on this team. Let alone that the CB on defense are fn OLD.

As long as Carl Peterson is still here we can not have a true rebuilding year. NO Coach is going to be able to build a Championship caliber team with Carl Peterson here.

Reerun_KC · 12-24-2007, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar

Well if it would have actually been a rebuilding year would have helped.

I am pretty sure most were pissed that we threw away most of the year with Huard and now will have a high draft pick but will not know if we have the QBOTF on the roster, because 4 starts is not enough time to evaluate a QB.

If this was a rebuilding year then why did we cut Justin Phinisee (who looked great in TC and Preseason) for Drummond? Or why did Priest start in front of Kolby?

It is a rebuilding year now that the team sucks, but just food for thought, Herm put this team together and thought this could be a playoff team. Kinda tells us how good is evaluation and coaching of players really is.

QFT

Simplex3 · 12-24-2007, 09:16 AM

What do you do when you don't agree with management and the fan base is full of it?

Start looking for a new team. Thankfully the Bucs are having an up year.

chagrin · 12-24-2007, 09:18 AM

Who's flip flopping?
The youth movement isn't the problem; we have a patch work O-line, which in my opinion is the bulk of the execution problem on O; if the line doesn't execute, the QB can't do shit. He's also very young and will make mistakes, I understand that clearly. I've been advocating O-line drafting all year, and I didn't like the Turk pick at DT. Maybe he will grow but he plays like a back up, like he was in college.

not everybody here flip flops.

**dirk digler** · 12-24-2007, 09:18 AM

I could take a couple of rebuilding years but this not what happened this year. You don't start rebuilding during Week 11 sorry.

Simplex3 · 12-24-2007, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar

Well if it would have actually been a rebuilding year would have helped.

I am pretty sure most were pissed that we threw away most of the year with Huard and now will have a high draft pick but will not know if we have the QBOTF on the roster, because 4 starts is not enough time to evaluate a QB.

If this was a rebuilding year then why did we cut Justin Phinisee (who looked great in TC and Preseason) for Drummond? Or why did Priest start in front of Kolby?

It is a rebuilding year now that the team sucks, but just food for thought, Herm put this team together and thought this could be a playoff team. Kinda tells us how good is evaluation and coaching of players really is.

I would agree with your post EXCEPT a larger percentage of snapperheads on this board have gone ahead and decided after four starts that Brodie isn't the man.

CrazyHorse · 12-24-2007, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittysbar

Well if it would have actually been a rebuilding year would have helped.

I am pretty sure most were pissed that we threw away most of the year with Huard and now will have a high draft pick but will not know if we have the QBOTF on the roster, because 4 starts is not enough time to evaluate a QB.

If this was a rebuilding year then why did we cut Justin Phinisee (who looked great in TC and Preseason) for Drummond? Or why did Priest start in front of Kolby?

It is a rebuilding year now that the team sucks, but just food for thought, Herm put this team together and thought this could be a playoff team. Kinda tells us how good is evaluation and coaching of players really is.

Hey, I agree. But that really has nothing to do with the thread. I'm talking about how people are throwing the players under the bus after a few starts.

Reading is fundemental.

chagrin · 12-24-2007, 09:18 AM

Oh yeah, and I don't think I ever supported Herm Edwards as Head Coach, and I haven't once supported Solari as OC.

12-24-2007, 09:02 AM
CrazyHorse All Motor! Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	You lied. We are playing a bunch of young players. Trying to start a young QB we drafted. Turning the roster over. Something the Chiefs fans on this board have bitched about for years. This is, for the most part, what you asked for. Now I understand that bad play calling, and bad coaching weren't part of that. That isn't what I'm talking about. We have every right to complain about that. I'm talking about rookie players that make mistakes, getting thrown under the bus. Especially Croyle. Here are a few popular quotes from the past. "Oh, I could deal with the INTs and lost games that go with grooming a new QB". "As long as we are trying to build a winner" This trying to put a bandaid on a team that needs to get younger is just frustrating." Then you have the audacity to blame Carl or Edwards for not starting him sooner. How can you blame them? They knew what your reaction would be better than you did. I'm not defending them. But instead calling you guys out. I'm not saying that these players will be good players. I'm saying you're not holding up your end of the bargain. I realize this thread wont be popular, but you should understand how silly some of you look. As a Chiefs fan, it's flustrating watching you clowns flip flop. Merry Christmas. Last edited by CrazyHorse; 12-24-2007 at 11:04 AM..
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12-24-2007, 09:04 AM	#2
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12-24-2007, 09:05 AM	#3
Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $2772136	We would take the rebuilding the proper way with average to below average coaching. We could take normal mistakes. Not this drunkan reerun assback wards "HEY i HAVE NEVER COACHED A FOOTBALL GAME IN MY LIFE' Stupid mother **ing way this ing orginazation is being **ing run. This whole Ok we are rebuilding is now a cop out because the whole team is garbage. The only reason some of these young players is not because of the coaches choice it is because of injuries. __________________
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12-24-2007, 09:13 AM	#7
smittysbar Right in the Lumberyard Danny Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LaPlata, MO Casino cash: $10004942	Well if it would have actually been a rebuilding year would have helped. I am pretty sure most were pissed that we threw away most of the year with Huard and now will have a high draft pick but will not know if we have the QBOTF on the roster, because 4 starts is not enough time to evaluate a QB. If this was a rebuilding year then why did we cut Justin Phinisee (who looked great in TC and Preseason) for Drummond? Or why did Priest start in front of Kolby? It is a rebuilding year now that the team sucks, but just food for thought, Herm put this team together and thought this could be a playoff team. Kinda tells us how good is evaluation and coaching of players really is. __________________
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12-24-2007, 09:14 AM	#8
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3095421	On a rebuilding year, you start with the youth and you look for improvement through out the year. We started with old decaying players & went over half the season with them before we started to see any youth and then they get less than half a season to get better and the team has regressed over the year not gotten any better. We still have questions at key spots on this team. Let alone that the CB on defense are fn OLD. As long as Carl Peterson is still here we can not have a true rebuilding year. NO Coach is going to be able to build a Championship caliber team with Carl Peterson here.
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12-24-2007, 09:18 AM	#11
chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9904905	Who's flip flopping? The youth movement isn't the problem; we have a patch work O-line, which in my opinion is the bulk of the execution problem on O; if the line doesn't execute, the QB can't do shit. He's also very young and will make mistakes, I understand that clearly. I've been advocating O-line drafting all year, and I didn't like the Turk pick at DT. Maybe he will grow but he plays like a back up, like he was in college. not everybody here flip flops. __________________ Times have changed, so have I, things are better now.
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12-24-2007, 09:18 AM	#12
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