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Old 02-28-2008, 11:21 AM   Topic Starter
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Imagine the melt down on the board if this shakes out like this guy thinks.

5. Chiefs Matt Ryan QB 6-4 228 Boston College Senior
Personally, I don't think Matt Ryan is the best QB in the draft. I believe Brian Brohm is the best and safest QB selection in the draft. With that said, the Chiefs front office has strong ties to the Philadelphia and Northeast region and have studied Ryan's game significantly. Kansas City has other needs and could grab Dorsey at this pick, but Ryan is favored by the front office and will give incumbent QB Brodie Croyle competition.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:23 AM   #2
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I will ****in shoot myself if we use this pick on the next Alex smith.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:26 AM   #3
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Me too, where would you like to be shot ?
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:28 AM   #4
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:48 AM   #5
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Passing on Gholston and Dorsey would burn me but at the end of the day I'd be perfectly fine Ryan. This team needs a quality QB to build around and Ryan fits the bill better than Croyle or any of the other QBs in the draft. IMO Ryan can be a franchise QB and Croyle will never come close.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:29 AM   #6
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:39 PM   #7
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Do it Carl.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:26 AM   #8
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You can't win a championship without a QB. The league is more QB centric than it has ever been. I won't be angry if they take a shot at someone they think can be the guy.

I'm sick of all the 'safe' picks and trade downs and defensive line busts. Why keep doing things the same way as we always have? It obviously doesn't work.

If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've always got.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:48 AM   #9
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You can't win a championship without a QB. The league is more QB centric than it has ever been. I won't be angry if they take a shot at someone they think can be the guy.

I'm sick of all the 'safe' picks and trade downs and defensive line busts. Why keep doing things the same way as we always have? It obviously doesn't work.

If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've always got.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:55 AM   #10
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You can't win a championship without a QB. The league is more QB centric than it has ever been. I won't be angry if they take a shot at someone they think can be the guy.

I'm sick of all the 'safe' picks and trade downs and defensive line busts. Why keep doing things the same way as we always have? It obviously doesn't work.

If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've always got.

Thank You. Chiefs are not going anywhere for a few years anyways. Might as well start from the ground up.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:56 AM   #11
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You can't win a championship without a QB. The league is more QB centric than it has ever been. I won't be angry if they take a shot at someone they think can be the guy.

I'm sick of all the 'safe' picks and trade downs and defensive line busts. Why keep doing things the same way as we always have? It obviously doesn't work.

If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've always got.

IMO A pick like Ryan would signal a major change in philosophy at Arrowhead. Carl would never take a risk like drafting a QB this high and going into the offseason I figured Herm would stick with Croyle come hell or high water since Croyle is his guy. Now I'm not so sure.

Bottom line there are 6 or 7 guys that I will be damn glad to have at #5 and a case can be made for everyone of them. This team need talent everywhere. Barring a major reach in round one I don't see how anyone can be outraged.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:10 PM   #12
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I don't see Carl doing it. We know what he thinks of QBs. If football teams are cars, he thinks the QB is the gas cap. He thinks you win with Steve Deberg, Dave Kreig, a Montana who was long past his prime, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Damon Huard... hell someone will probably have to hogtie him from bringing in pennington or mcnabb. The only reason we've ever had good QB play here in my lifetime was because Vermeil convinced him to bring in Green, right?

Carl doesn't think the QB position is worth anything. This explains continued failure since it's the most important position in football and is getting even more important by the year as the rules continue to get tougher on DBs and more protective of QBs and receivers.

We know Carl thinks QBs are an afterthought because he keeps bringing in veteran castoffs who are known sucky quantites. He doesn't see QBs as being able to lead teams or win games for them. He sees them as mistakes waiting to happen - so get someone who sucks, but won't drop the ball or throw too many interceptions.

I can't see Carl spending a pick this high on a QB. I could see him trading down to the middle of the first round and trying to get Brohm, maybe. I could see him picking another QB later in the draft. But I don't think he's willing to take a big risk on a position he doesn't value all that much.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:22 PM   #13
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You can't win a championship without a QB. The league is more QB centric than it has ever been. I won't be angry if they take a shot at someone they think can be the guy.
Cochise summed up my thoughts on this. This is a QB league more than ever, and a franchise guy at the position can completely change the dynamics of the team.

It would definitely be a gamble, but it's a gamble that could pay off big.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:29 PM   #14
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You can't win a championship without a QB. The league is more QB centric than it has ever been. I won't be angry if they take a shot at someone they think can be the guy.

I'm sick of all the 'safe' picks and trade downs and defensive line busts. Why keep doing things the same way as we always have? It obviously doesn't work.

If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've always got.
What QB's are available next year?? I am all for sucking for another year if there is another QB in next years draft.. Get stud OL or DL in this draft..
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:33 PM   #15
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What QB's are available next year?? I am all for sucking for another year if there is another QB in next years draft.. Get stud OL or DL in this draft..
Check my post right before yours.
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