The Official Walter Football Mock Draft Thread

Direckshun · 11-27-2007, 01:33 PM

As I make no secret, I love reading Walter Football. Not because the guy is particularly educated on the Chiefs, but because the guy's proud of his opinions and he has impressive knowledge of the incoming draft class.

Now, I'll have you know, every single mock he posted for us last year was wrong.

But that doesn't mean they aren't interesting.

I'll update this thread leading up to the Draft every time he updates his 2008 mock. I don't care about his 2009 mock. Plus, I'll only be focusing on the picks he gives the Chiefs.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008.php

Direckshun · 11-27-2007, 01:37 PM

Updated Nov. 23. He gives us the #10 pick, and for the first time all year, he claims we won't need to use it to draft a QB.

10. Kansas City Chiefs: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Brodie Croyle actually looked pretty decent at Indianapolis, so maybe the Chiefs will hold off on drafting a quarterback and give their young gun-slinger a year to prove himself. With that in mind, Sam Baker and Ryan Clady become serious options to improve the offensive line. However, I don't think Kansas City can pass on Calais Campbell, the best player available at this juncture. Jared Allen may defect for another team via the free-agent market. If that happens, the Chiefs will need an insurance policy anyway.

Odd pick, but nonetheless.

40. Kansas City Chiefs: Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
Let's see... the Chiefs can't run the ball (Larry Johnson averaging 3.5 yards per carry) or pass protect (29 sacks allowed in nine games). Will Kansas City finally come to its senses and realize it needs to draft some offensive linemen to replace the ones that retired? For the sake of Chiefs fans everywhere, I hope so.

71. Kansas City Chiefs: Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
In the wake of Priest Holmes' retirement, all the Chiefs have left at the running back position are the suddenly injury-prone Larry Johnson and rookie Kolby Smith.

What an interesting 1-2-3. I wouldn't have banked on it.

chagrin · 11-29-2007, 12:26 PM

I like this Mock however I would still go LT first, unless of course Calais Campbell, or someone else, is truly the BPA at our pick.

**The Franchise** · 11-29-2007, 01:39 PM

I think if we can pick up Barry Richardson in the 2nd round then by all means go CB in the 1st round. I know Herm thinks that you don't have to have a 1st round CB...but our CBs are old as hell and not going to last much longer.

Chris Meck · 11-29-2007, 02:04 PM

I really don't think Carl is going to let Jared Allen go. I don't think a DE is a smart pick at that juncture.

If there is no stud OT there at #10, maybe trade down, pick up another #2 or #3 if there's someone there that somebody else REALLY wants.

I don't know that we need to go CB in the 1st as in this system they're not really valued as highly as others. Not saying we don't need one, just that we don't need one that high.

Of course, if we pick up an OT and maybe a G in FA, then we are relatively free to do whatever in the draft.

an OLB might not be a bad idea as Donnie's only got a year or two left in the tank.

I'd really rather move up and grab the best LT in the draft.

chris

Zeke Ziggle · 11-29-2007, 02:14 PM

Based on the way they have the picks i would go Baker/Ellis, Richardson/Tribble, Tevaga/Nelson. The line needs fixing but we also need CB's and another WR. just as well that we have a whole bunch of picks

**The Franchise** · 11-29-2007, 02:58 PM

What would you guys think about drafting a OT in the 1st round and trading our 2nd round pick for DeAngelo Hall?

chagrin · 11-29-2007, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

What would you guys think about drafting a OT in the 1st round and trading our 2nd round pick for DeAngelo Hall?

I don't know, what are you basing this idea on; I mean have you heard something?

**The Franchise** · 11-29-2007, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chagrin

I don't know, what are you basing this idea on; I mean have you heard something?

Well we know he doesn't want to play in Atlanta anymore. It's just speculation on my part.

Direckshun · 11-29-2007, 03:36 PM

Hall would be a good addition, but he's going to be expensive and his talents aren't necessary in the cover 2.

I stay stick with the young & cheap at CB.

**The Franchise** · 11-29-2007, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Hall would be a good addition, but he's going to be expensive and his talents aren't necessary in the cover 2.

I stay stick with the young & cheap at CB.

Honestly....I don't think anyone is going to be cheap anymore. I figure if we go after Hall it's because Law is going to be gone.

rtmike · 11-29-2007, 03:56 PM

I realize there's bigger issues (OL). But let's face it, Herm wants to play "Buc Ball" and as long as he's in charge the defense will continue to be tinkered with until it's a top 10 or 5. I hope for a OL free agent pick up and a round 2 or 3 OL addition.
So I see where agreeing with the walter analysis might work. You need that push up the middle and ends to cover the subpar secondary with the Cover 2.

I just keep thinking about the days of old and hearing coverage sacks being mentioned becasue of the likes of Carter and Hasty. Kind of the opposite of what we're doing now.

**DaKCMan AP** · 11-29-2007, 09:08 PM

If the Pats can get Darren McFadden what would be the point of any other team playing for the next 5 years?

Direckshun · 11-30-2007, 02:34 AM

Updated again today. Even though we've been bumped up from the 10th pick to the 8th, our two first-round picks remain the same.

8. Kansas City Chiefs: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Brodie Croyle actually looked pretty decent at Indianapolis, so maybe the Chiefs will hold off on drafting a quarterback and give their young gun-slinger a year to prove himself. With that in mind, Sam Baker and Ryan Clady become serious options to improve the offensive line. However, I don't think Kansas City can pass on Calais Campbell, the best player available at this juncture. Jared Allen may defect for another team via the free-agent market. If that happens, the Chiefs will need an insurance policy anyway.

38. Kansas City Chiefs: Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
Let's see... the Chiefs can't run the ball (Larry Johnson averaging 3.5 yards per carry) or pass protect (29 sacks allowed in nine games). Will Kansas City finally come to its senses and realize it needs to draft some offensive linemen to replace the ones that retired? For the sake of Chiefs fans everywhere, I hope so.

The third is where things go a little more predictable than the Mike Hart screwball.

73. Kansas City Chiefs: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, TSU
Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences.

pikesome · 11-30-2007, 09:04 AM

I'm not sure I can believe that the Chiefs will let Allen go. Besides his play, he's the kind of fan favorite player that will help keep the faith till the team shows improvement. Letting him go removes one of the few reasons to watch while the rebuilding pains are in full effect.

11-27-2007, 01:33 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	The Official Walter Football Mock Draft Thread As I make no secret, I love reading Walter Football. Not because the guy is particularly educated on the Chiefs, but because the guy's proud of his opinions and he has impressive knowledge of the incoming draft class. Now, I'll have you know, every single mock he posted for us last year was wrong. But that doesn't mean they aren't interesting. I'll update this thread leading up to the Draft every time he updates his 2008 mock. I don't care about his 2009 mock. Plus, I'll only be focusing on the picks he gives the Chiefs. http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008.php
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11-29-2007, 12:26 PM	#3
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11-29-2007, 01:39 PM	#4
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	I think if we can pick up Barry Richardson in the 2nd round then by all means go CB in the 1st round. I know Herm thinks that you don't have to have a 1st round CB...but our CBs are old as hell and not going to last much longer.
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11-29-2007, 02:04 PM	#5
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1385090	I really don't think Carl is going to let Jared Allen go. I don't think a DE is a smart pick at that juncture. If there is no stud OT there at #10, maybe trade down, pick up another #2 or #3 if there's someone there that somebody else REALLY wants. I don't know that we need to go CB in the 1st as in this system they're not really valued as highly as others. Not saying we don't need one, just that we don't need one that high. Of course, if we pick up an OT and maybe a G in FA, then we are relatively free to do whatever in the draft. an OLB might not be a bad idea as Donnie's only got a year or two left in the tank. I'd really rather move up and grab the best LT in the draft. chris
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11-29-2007, 02:14 PM	#6
Zeke Ziggle Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newcastle Aust Casino cash: $9054475	Based on the way they have the picks i would go Baker/Ellis, Richardson/Tribble, Tevaga/Nelson. The line needs fixing but we also need CB's and another WR. just as well that we have a whole bunch of picks
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11-27-2007, 01:37 PM	#2
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Updated Nov. 23. He gives us the #10 pick, and for the first time all year, he claims we won't need to use it to draft a QB. 10. Kansas City Chiefs: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami Brodie Croyle actually looked pretty decent at Indianapolis, so maybe the Chiefs will hold off on drafting a quarterback and give their young gun-slinger a year to prove himself. With that in mind, Sam Baker and Ryan Clady become serious options to improve the offensive line. However, I don't think Kansas City can pass on Calais Campbell, the best player available at this juncture. Jared Allen may defect for another team via the free-agent market. If that happens, the Chiefs will need an insurance policy anyway. Odd pick, but nonetheless. 40. Kansas City Chiefs: Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson Let's see... the Chiefs can't run the ball (Larry Johnson averaging 3.5 yards per carry) or pass protect (29 sacks allowed in nine games). Will Kansas City finally come to its senses and realize it needs to draft some offensive linemen to replace the ones that retired? For the sake of Chiefs fans everywhere, I hope so. 71. Kansas City Chiefs: Mike Hart, RB, Michigan In the wake of Priest Holmes' retirement, all the Chiefs have left at the running back position are the suddenly injury-prone Larry Johnson and rookie Kolby Smith. What an interesting 1-2-3. I wouldn't have banked on it.
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11-29-2007, 02:58 PM	#7
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11-29-2007, 03:36 PM	#10
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Hall would be a good addition, but he's going to be expensive and his talents aren't necessary in the cover 2. I stay stick with the young & cheap at CB.
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11-29-2007, 03:56 PM	#12
rtmike union paraplegic organizer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: western Kansas Casino cash: $8590000	I realize there's bigger issues (OL). But let's face it, Herm wants to play "Buc Ball" and as long as he's in charge the defense will continue to be tinkered with until it's a top 10 or 5. I hope for a OL free agent pick up and a round 2 or 3 OL addition. So I see where agreeing with the walter analysis might work. You need that push up the middle and ends to cover the subpar secondary with the Cover 2. I just keep thinking about the days of old and hearing coverage sacks being mentioned becasue of the likes of Carter and Hasty. Kind of the opposite of what we're doing now.
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11-30-2007, 02:34 AM	#14
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Updated again today. Even though we've been bumped up from the 10th pick to the 8th, our two first-round picks remain the same. 8. Kansas City Chiefs: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami Brodie Croyle actually looked pretty decent at Indianapolis, so maybe the Chiefs will hold off on drafting a quarterback and give their young gun-slinger a year to prove himself. With that in mind, Sam Baker and Ryan Clady become serious options to improve the offensive line. However, I don't think Kansas City can pass on Calais Campbell, the best player available at this juncture. Jared Allen may defect for another team via the free-agent market. If that happens, the Chiefs will need an insurance policy anyway. 38. Kansas City Chiefs: Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson Let's see... the Chiefs can't run the ball (Larry Johnson averaging 3.5 yards per carry) or pass protect (29 sacks allowed in nine games). Will Kansas City finally come to its senses and realize it needs to draft some offensive linemen to replace the ones that retired? For the sake of Chiefs fans everywhere, I hope so. The third is where things go a little more predictable than the Mike Hart screwball. 73. Kansas City Chiefs: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, TSU Ty Law and Patrick Surtain will both be over the age of 32 once the 2008 season commences.
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11-30-2007, 09:04 AM	#15
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