Chiefs King Carl gives Whitlock shit, and Whitlock fires right back!

Hammock Parties · 09-08-2008, 01:59 AM

. Epic journalismizing!

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...ry/786871.html

In a battle of postgame cluelessness, the judges gave the title to The Artist Formerly Known as King Carl over “star” receiver Dwayne Bowe in a split decision.

I, of course, agree with the judges.

In the moments after the Chiefs fell to the New England Patriots 17-10, Carl Peterson sauntered over to me and bragged about Kansas City’s closer-than-expected loss.

“It wasn’t a fifth exhibition game for the Patriots,” Peterson sneered as I chatted with Tony Gonzalez.

Moments later, Bowe told me and several television reporters, “I played OK.”

I waited for the cameras to leave and then asked Bowe whether he was disappointed with his play and whether he was taking the loss personally. Bowe assured me he wasn’t.

Wow. The Chiefs nearly pulled off the shocker of the NFL opening weekend. Their defense knocked Tom Brady out of the game midway through the first quarter (knee injury), and the Kansas City offense lined up first and goal at the 5 with a chance to tie the game in the final seconds.

The two people most responsible for the loss felt nothing and/or the impulse to brag.

Bowe dropped the game-tying touchdown. On first and goal, Damon Huard drilled Bowe with a perfect fade stop. Bowe dropped it. His fourth drop of the game. Bowe was horrible Sunday. He made a leaping snag on a 13-yard TD catch. Other than that, he was miserable. He certainly wasn’t a No. 1 receiver.

“Too many drops,” Herm Edwards said after the game. “He’s better than that. He was pressing.”

When the game was over, I expected Bowe to stand before reporters and tearfully swear he’d never play that poorly again. I expected him to say what Edwards said: “I had too many drops. I’m better than that. I let my quarterback down. Damon came in and did a nice job replacing Brodie Croyle, and I have to make that catch for him and the team.”

Instead, Bowe insisted nothing was wrong and suggested the Chiefs played well in the second half.

Honestly, I anticipated Peterson’s cluelessness. He’ll never admit that he’s an anchor around this franchise. Sunday’s game was a glaring example of his shortcomings as a personnel man.

He’s never drafted and/or developed a No. 1 receiver, which has prevented the Chiefs from cultivating a legitimate franchise quarterback. For 20 years, the Chiefs have tried to win football games with pretenders at quarterback and receiver.

Andre Rison, a castoff at the end of his career, has been Peterson’s best receiver. Trent Green, a castoff and journeyman, has been Peterson’s best quarterback. In terms of draft picks, the best Peterson has done is Joe Horn, a guy Peterson let go because he wrongly concluded Horn wasn’t a real No. 1 receiver.

Rather than gloating about beating the spread because a potentially “illegal” hit sidelined Brady, Peterson should’ve watched the game and recognized his own failure.

In a league that requires a top-flight quarterback and receiver to win consistently, the Chiefs have the league’s second-youngest roster and no promising options at quarterback or receiver.

I know it’s just one game, but I’m far from convinced Bowe is a No. 1 receiver. He’s 10 pounds too thick by my eyes, a step too slow and much too immature. A four-drop afternoon angers and embarrasses a superstar receiver. A crucial fourth-quarter drop in the end zone causes depression.

I’ll be interested to see what Bowe does next week against Oakland.

It’s going to be interesting to see what the Chiefs do at quarterback the rest of this season. Croyle left because of a shoulder injury early in the third quarter. Kansas City’s receiver-less offense had done nothing to that point.

Huard provided a spark. He connected with Bowe for a score. On Kansas City’s final drive, Huard stood in the pocket, absorbed the rush of three New England defenders and hit KC’s No. 2 receiver Devard Darling with a beautiful strike on a skinny post.

Darling should have scored. He’s supposed to be KC’s speed receiver. He was out in space and somehow got dragged down 5 yards short of a 73-yard, game-tying TD catch-n-run.

“It should’ve been a score,” Darling said.

“I guess the guy had an angle on him,” Edwards said.

There was no angle. Darling is not a true No. 2 receiver. He’s a special-teams player masquerading as a No. 2 because of Peterson’s incompetence.

No doubt the Chiefs turned in a solid effort, especially on the defensive side. Kansas City’s young defenders up front — Tank Tyler, Turk McBride and Glenn Dorsey — showed some promise. The Chiefs’ defense, as has been the case for most of the Peterson era, flashed some grit.

Kansas City’s offense, on the other hand, was foiled by the exact same shortcomings that have haunted the Chiefs for 20 years.

At least we can credit Peterson for being consistently clueless. We can hope Bowe will get a clue as he matures.

Hammock Parties · 09-08-2008, 02:02 AM

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He’s 10 pounds too thick by my eyes

What is the ideal playing weight for a football writer, Whitlock?

You can't make this shit up.

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There was no angle. Darling is not a true No. 2 receiver. He’s a special-teams player masquerading as a No. 2 because of Peterson’s incompetence.

OH! TWIST THAT KNIFE, BIG SEXY!

This is some epic shit right here. I am enjoying this immensely. Rufus Dawes is FIRING UP THAT KEYBOARD AS WE SPEAK!

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At least we can credit Peterson for being consistently clueless. We can hope Bowe will get a clue as he matures.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-08-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

What is the ideal playing weight for a football writer, Whitlock?

You can't make this shit up.

OH! TWIST THAT KNIFE, BIG SEXY!

This is some epic shit right here. I am enjoying this immensely. Rufus Dawes is FIRING UP THAT KEYBOARD AS WE SPEAK!

He has a point. Bowe probably could stand to drop a few pounds. He's not exactly built like TO. It might help his quickness.

Why he wants to pillory Bowe as not being a #1 after 17 games, I have no fucking idea.

Hammock Parties · 09-08-2008, 02:09 AM

Seriously, is there any better column than a column written when Carl pisses off Whitlock?

RELEASE YOUR ANGER!

This could be a special season.

Otter · 09-08-2008, 02:11 AM

Awesome article.

You could have a team full of superstars and they wouldn't win under these bumbling idiots. I hope the Chiefs lose every ****ing game this year if it means cleaning house of Peterson and his incompetent minions.

Everyone wants that idiot gone, just ****ing leave.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-08-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Seriously, is there any better column than a column written when Carl pisses off Whitlock?

RELEASE YOUR ANGER!

This could be a special season.

It'll be funny to see if Whitlock makes Bowe his personal hate project this year. He should focus on McIntosh and McGraw, because they prove the incompetence of the GM as well as the cronyism and incompetence of the HC.

McGraw should have gotten over and made a play on that ball to Moss on 3rd and 11. He was 5 steps late.

Mecca · 09-08-2008, 02:24 AM

I think the idea is that Bowe is really the Chiefs young star player and he's not reacting like you'd want him to. Owens for all his shit if he played like that would be pissed off at himself and say it.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-08-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think the idea is that Bowe is really the Chiefs young star player and he's not reacting like you'd want him to. Owens for all his shit if he played like that would be pissed off at himself and say it.

I agree with that part of his article, but he's also saying that because he had one case of the dropsies that he's not a #1. It's not like Braylon Edwards or TO have Jerry Rice's hands.

Hammock Parties · 09-08-2008, 02:27 AM

I hope Bowe reads this. He might go for 200.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-08-2008, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

I hope Bowe reads this. He might go for 200.

For all the stupidity of the Raiders' FA moves, they are improved over last year and their secondary is demonstrably better than NE's.

Mecca · 09-08-2008, 02:32 AM

Asomugha is a damn good corner.....

Bowe probably should drop about 10lbs either that or tighten up, that's not saying he sucks just that he needs to focus a bit more.

BigRock · 09-08-2008, 02:57 AM

The best part about this article is that Bowe said some of the things Whitlock claims he didn't. I don't think there were tears in his eyes, but he did say there was "no doubt" he should have caught the TD pass and that he wanted to go out and work on those routes at practice.

09-08-2008, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

The best part about this article is that Bowe said some of the things Whitlock claims he didn't. I don't think there were tears in his eyes, but he did say there was "no doubt" he should have caught the TD pass and that he wanted to go out and work on those routes at practice.

I agree. I thought Bowe owned it. Everybody is going to react to adversity differently. The only thing you can demand is that they own it, not deflect or make excuses. I thought Bowe achieved that during the post-game interviews.

Whitlock is being nitpicky about it. Sometimes I'll read a Whitlock column believing he's writing something about a young player because he's hoping it will light a fire under him. I think that's the case here.

Swazey · 09-08-2008, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Whitlock is being nitpicky about it. Sometimes I'll read a Whitlock column believing he's writing something about a young player because he's hoping it will light a fire under him. I think that's the case here.

Yup. Bowe's a smart cat... He'll give his lip a rest and work his hands.

Chiefs=Champions · 09-08-2008, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I agree. I thought Bowe owned it. Everybody is going to react to adversity differently. The only thing you can demand is that they own it, not deflect or make excuses. I thought Bowe achieved that during the post-game interviews.

Whitlock is being nitpicky about it. Sometimes I'll read a Whitlock column believing he's writing something about a young player because he's hoping it will light a fire under him. I think that's the case here.

lol at Whitlock... notice the lack of quotes on Bowes assurance he played well...

hes right about Carl though...

09-08-2008, 01:59 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $790478	King Carl gives Whitlock shit, and Whitlock fires right back! . Epic journalismizing! http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...ry/786871.html In a battle of postgame cluelessness, the judges gave the title to The Artist Formerly Known as King Carl over “star” receiver Dwayne Bowe in a split decision. I, of course, agree with the judges. In the moments after the Chiefs fell to the New England Patriots 17-10, Carl Peterson sauntered over to me and bragged about Kansas City’s closer-than-expected loss. “It wasn’t a fifth exhibition game for the Patriots,” Peterson sneered as I chatted with Tony Gonzalez. Moments later, Bowe told me and several television reporters, “I played OK.” I waited for the cameras to leave and then asked Bowe whether he was disappointed with his play and whether he was taking the loss personally. Bowe assured me he wasn’t. Wow. The Chiefs nearly pulled off the shocker of the NFL opening weekend. Their defense knocked Tom Brady out of the game midway through the first quarter (knee injury), and the Kansas City offense lined up first and goal at the 5 with a chance to tie the game in the final seconds. The two people most responsible for the loss felt nothing and/or the impulse to brag. Bowe dropped the game-tying touchdown. On first and goal, Damon Huard drilled Bowe with a perfect fade stop. Bowe dropped it. His fourth drop of the game. Bowe was horrible Sunday. He made a leaping snag on a 13-yard TD catch. Other than that, he was miserable. He certainly wasn’t a No. 1 receiver. “Too many drops,” Herm Edwards said after the game. “He’s better than that. He was pressing.” When the game was over, I expected Bowe to stand before reporters and tearfully swear he’d never play that poorly again. I expected him to say what Edwards said: “I had too many drops. I’m better than that. I let my quarterback down. Damon came in and did a nice job replacing Brodie Croyle, and I have to make that catch for him and the team.” Instead, Bowe insisted nothing was wrong and suggested the Chiefs played well in the second half. Honestly, I anticipated Peterson’s cluelessness. He’ll never admit that he’s an anchor around this franchise. Sunday’s game was a glaring example of his shortcomings as a personnel man. He’s never drafted and/or developed a No. 1 receiver, which has prevented the Chiefs from cultivating a legitimate franchise quarterback. For 20 years, the Chiefs have tried to win football games with pretenders at quarterback and receiver. Andre Rison, a castoff at the end of his career, has been Peterson’s best receiver. Trent Green, a castoff and journeyman, has been Peterson’s best quarterback. In terms of draft picks, the best Peterson has done is Joe Horn, a guy Peterson let go because he wrongly concluded Horn wasn’t a real No. 1 receiver. Rather than gloating about beating the spread because a potentially “illegal” hit sidelined Brady, Peterson should’ve watched the game and recognized his own failure. In a league that requires a top-flight quarterback and receiver to win consistently, the Chiefs have the league’s second-youngest roster and no promising options at quarterback or receiver. I know it’s just one game, but I’m far from convinced Bowe is a No. 1 receiver. He’s 10 pounds too thick by my eyes, a step too slow and much too immature. A four-drop afternoon angers and embarrasses a superstar receiver. A crucial fourth-quarter drop in the end zone causes depression. I’ll be interested to see what Bowe does next week against Oakland. It’s going to be interesting to see what the Chiefs do at quarterback the rest of this season. Croyle left because of a shoulder injury early in the third quarter. Kansas City’s receiver-less offense had done nothing to that point. Huard provided a spark. He connected with Bowe for a score. On Kansas City’s final drive, Huard stood in the pocket, absorbed the rush of three New England defenders and hit KC’s No. 2 receiver Devard Darling with a beautiful strike on a skinny post. Darling should have scored. He’s supposed to be KC’s speed receiver. He was out in space and somehow got dragged down 5 yards short of a 73-yard, game-tying TD catch-n-run. “It should’ve been a score,” Darling said. “I guess the guy had an angle on him,” Edwards said. There was no angle. Darling is not a true No. 2 receiver. He’s a special-teams player masquerading as a No. 2 because of Peterson’s incompetence. No doubt the Chiefs turned in a solid effort, especially on the defensive side. Kansas City’s young defenders up front — Tank Tyler, Turk McBride and Glenn Dorsey — showed some promise. The Chiefs’ defense, as has been the case for most of the Peterson era, flashed some grit. Kansas City’s offense, on the other hand, was foiled by the exact same shortcomings that have haunted the Chiefs for 20 years. At least we can credit Peterson for being consistently clueless. We can hope Bowe will get a clue as he matures.
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09-08-2008, 02:24 AM	#7
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	I think the idea is that Bowe is really the Chiefs young star player and he's not reacting like you'd want him to. Owens for all his shit if he played like that would be pissed off at himself and say it.
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09-08-2008, 02:32 AM	#11
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	Asomugha is a damn good corner..... Bowe probably should drop about 10lbs either that or tighten up, that's not saying he sucks just that he needs to focus a bit more.
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09-08-2008, 02:57 AM	#12
BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $705412	The best part about this article is that Bowe said some of the things Whitlock claims he didn't. I don't think there were tears in his eyes, but he did say there was "no doubt" he should have caught the TD pass and that he wanted to go out and work on those routes at practice.
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