Chiefs Who is to blame for the Chiefs Run Defense

KC kid · 09-23-2008, 01:23 PM

Is it the D tackles, D ends, linebackers, schemes? What is it?

FAX · 09-23-2008, 01:27 PM

Linebackers, probably. Although, it's a little difficult to tell whether they're playing the proper gaps when you don't know the call. Plus, Herm's "bend don't break" scheme means you have to be able to make solid, dependable, consistent, one-on-one tackles. Which we obviously cannot do.

FAX

ChiefsCountry · 09-23-2008, 01:28 PM

If a scheme is ran right, linebackers are the ones who are suppose to clean up the run. DT's take up blockers and Backers fill the gaps.

**The Franchise** · 09-23-2008, 01:33 PM

Our LBs suck. DJ is the only one that's decent and he's not even doing that great. Pat Thomas has no clue what he's doing and sucks. Donnie Edwards is old.

Deberg_1990 · 09-23-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Our LBs suck. DJ is the only one that's decent and he's not even doing that great. Pat Thomas has no clue what he's doing and sucks. Donnie Edwards is old.

Nap Harris must be real deep in Gun's doghouse to never see the field??

CoMoChief · 09-23-2008, 01:33 PM

LB's can't fill gaps for shit....we desperately need a MLB. And this defense as a whole needs to learn how to tackle.

I dunno where or whom to put the blame on for that.

Brock · 09-23-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

LB's can't fill gaps for shit....we desperately need a MLB. And this defense as a whole needs to learn how to tackle.

I dunno where or whom to put the blame on for that.

Just put it on Tyler Thigpen along with everything else.

CoMoChief · 09-23-2008, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Just put it on Tyler Thigpen along with everything else.

I can't believe the people on here who think starting Thigpen was even remotely a good idea from these clowns we have on the coaching staff and front office.

Simply amazing actually.

Brock · 09-23-2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I can't believe the people on here who think starting Thigpen was even remotely a good idea from these clowns we have on the coaching staff and front office.

Simply amazing actually.

Don't worry, your 8-8 team will be back soon.

Chief Faithful · 09-23-2008, 02:18 PM

Against the Falcons Dorsey and Tank did an outstanding job. All the breakdowns were on the edge so I say a combination of DE and LB. The Falcons didn't get anything up the middle all day.

CoMoChief · 09-23-2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Don't worry, your 8-8 team will be back soon.

Rather be 8-8 and have these young guys have wins under their belts and improving in the process rather than have their confidence completely taken away when we put the whole teams fate into a 7th rd draft pick we picked up off waivers and virtually having no chance of getting better as a team.

When you win games you improve....

StcChief · 09-23-2008, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

LB's can't fill gaps for shit....we desperately need a MLB. And this defense as a whole needs to learn how to tackle.

I dunno where or whom to put the blame on for that.

well....that would be the LB coach. Gunther

Mr. Arrowhead · 09-23-2008, 01:39 PM

to me its the DE and LB, it seems like we are getting beat on off tackles and runs to the outside

HypnotizedMonkey · 09-23-2008, 01:58 PM

Pat Thomas getting dragged around would be my first target, Donnie Edwards' age is the number two target, then it's all just a matter of experience IMO. We don't have a 'QB' on either side of the ball. The offensive inefficiency is making it very tough on the defense too.

Chiefnj2 · 09-23-2008, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HypnotizedMonkey

Pat Thomas getting dragged around would be my first target, .

That's the team captain your talking about.

09-23-2008, 01:23 PM	Topic Starter
KC kid Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $10004940	Who is to blame for the Chiefs Run Defense Is it the D tackles, D ends, linebackers, schemes? What is it?
Posts: 1,374

09-23-2008, 01:27 PM	#2
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	Linebackers, probably. Although, it's a little difficult to tell whether they're playing the proper gaps when you don't know the call. Plus, Herm's "bend don't break" scheme means you have to be able to make solid, dependable, consistent, one-on-one tackles. Which we obviously cannot do. FAX
Posts: 44,492

09-23-2008, 01:28 PM	#3
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1581248	If a scheme is ran right, linebackers are the ones who are suppose to clean up the run. DT's take up blockers and Backers fill the gaps.
Posts: 52,129

09-23-2008, 01:33 PM	#4
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Our LBs suck. DJ is the only one that's decent and he's not even doing that great. Pat Thomas has no clue what he's doing and sucks. Donnie Edwards is old.
Posts: 92,316

09-23-2008, 01:33 PM	#6
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	LB's can't fill gaps for shit....we desperately need a MLB. And this defense as a whole needs to learn how to tackle. I dunno where or whom to put the blame on for that.
Posts: 39,245

09-23-2008, 02:18 PM	#10
Chief Faithful Predicting Chiefs Victory Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9966500	Against the Falcons Dorsey and Tank did an outstanding job. All the breakdowns were on the edge so I say a combination of DE and LB. The Falcons didn't get anything up the middle all day.
Posts: 4,315

09-23-2008, 01:39 PM	#13
Mr. Arrowhead MVP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10015708	to me its the DE and LB, it seems like we are getting beat on off tackles and runs to the outside
Posts: 7,763

09-23-2008, 01:58 PM	#14
HypnotizedMonkey usually hooplah is involved Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Casino cash: $10004925	Pat Thomas getting dragged around would be my first target, Donnie Edwards' age is the number two target, then it's all just a matter of experience IMO. We don't have a 'QB' on either side of the ball. The offensive inefficiency is making it very tough on the defense too.
Posts: 1,311