Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-11-2008, 08:56 PM  
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is online now
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $800478
Youth Must Lead Chiefs

http://kan.scout.com/2/799989.html

There isn’t anything more soothing during a bye week to know that you can take some time off to catch up on some things and ponder the future of your favorite football team. This Sunday there is no game for the Kansas City Chiefs but that doesn’t mean Arrowhead will be silent.

As the season enters phase two, with quarterback Brodie Croyle back on the field, management and coaches must determine who will be part of the future. One player, tight end Tony Gonzalez, may not be, but he’s likely not the last player who will end up being shipped off.

Ever since Gonzalez failed to break Shannon Sharpe’s record at Arrowhead Stadium two weeks ago against the Denver Broncos, you could see this coming. After some conversations between Gonzalez, his head coach and his general manager, the conclusion was that the tight end was headed out of Kansas City. He wants out and has asked for a trade from the only team he’s known in his professional NFL career.

Gonzalez is arguably the greatest tight end in the history of the game, but all he has to show for it is records, with zero playoff wins. Is that what Gonzalez really wants?

Some will argue he’s only about the records, and that way of thinking was framed into his mind during the Dick Vermeil era. At that point, the Chiefs had the greatest show on grass and records were important to Vermeil and offensive coordinator Al Saunders.

If that regime was still in tact, Gonzalez would have likely set the record in front of the home crowd. The problem is that regime is no longer anywhere to be found in Kansas City, and this new era of Chiefs football isn’t about personal accomplishments or records.

That’s why it’s probable that either before Tuesday, or in the offseason, that the Chiefs will trade their All-Pro tight end. If not to the New York Giants, then another team.

That’s because it’s time for the next generation of Chiefs to take root. This team is young, but has not yet learned how to win. Gonzalez is a hard worker, who never takes time off and is always in shape, but he’s not what’s best for this football team right now.

If you look at all of the ascending young teams in the NFL - the Tennessee Titans, Jacksonville Jaguars and the New York Giants - they all have a lot in common.

All of those teams made the tough personnel decisions. They were not reluctant to let go of high-priced veterans. That’s what is at hand for the Chiefs today. They may not publicly admit it, but players such as Gonzalez, Larry Johnson, Patrick Surtain, Damon Huard, Ron Edwards, Napoleon Harris, Damion McIntosh and Donnie Edwards are likely playing their final 11 games as members of the Chiefs.

Most of those names are either great players or good guys, but collectively they’re not helping their team win football games. And that’s the ultimate measuring stick. This is part of the evolution of a franchise in transition, and as fans we must accept the fact some of our longtime heroes are not a part of the future.

Head Coach Herm Edwards has said all along that this football team had a lot of bad habits to break. One of them is losing, which becomes a habit. Players like Gonzalez should stop those bad habits from forming. Other than veteran guard Brian Waters, the veterans on this team are not leading the youth.

Thus, we may have reached the proverbial fork in the road for this entire franchise. There are changes coming now and in the offseason those changes will impact the way this franchise does business in the coming years.

Many fans believe this team is far away from contending. I dare say they’re not, but in order to take the next step some difficult and unpopular decisions will have to be made -not in the offseason, but now, perhaps this very week.

From this point on it won’t be the veterans who lead this team out of the doldrums, it’ll be the youth. The entire organization from top to bottom needs to embrace that inevitable fact and nurture it. If not, we could see more of the same in the last 11 games as we saw in the first five.

Posts: 297,443
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:05 PM   #2
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $104454
Can we trade Herm for a bag of practice squad players???
__________________
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
Posts: 68,677
Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:08 PM   #3
MIAdragon MIAdragon is offline
Someone pass the antifreeze
 
MIAdragon's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Miami (North Cuba)
Casino cash: $-2212181
"Most of those names are either great players or good guys"

Are you Fing kidding me , does this guy actually WATCH the games!?
Posts: 15,944
MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MIAdragon has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:09 PM   #4
kcxiv kcxiv is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central Valley, Cali
Casino cash: $8697996
**** this author. What the **** does he mean that Tony G is not whats best for the Chiefs? I mean if he gets traded fine, but whats not best for this team is Herm, Carl, Dick, Gun, ect ect ect. If they ****ing spent any money to help on the Oline this year, they could have had a half decent offensvie team. They were cheap and turned this team into an embarrassment.

I understand rebuilding, but you do not put your quarterback in harms way like Herm has done for 2 ****ing years now.

What needs to lead this Chiefs team is the head coach and his minions. Thats why he's getting paid a few million. ****ing Nick
Posts: 29,111
kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.kcxiv is too fat/Omaha.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:23 PM   #5
King_Chief_Fan King_Chief_Fan is offline
Praise Him
 
King_Chief_Fan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: none ya
Casino cash: $4755486
WPI writers suck because

I dislike WPI writers because they are cheap, lying, no good, cock sucking, floor shuffling, low life, snake licking, inbred, over stuffed, ignorant, dog kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat assed, bug eyed, stiff legged, worm headed, sacks of monkey shit.
__________________
No Jesus
No Peace
Know Jesus
Know Peace

Ephesians 2:8-10

English Standard Version (ESV)

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Posts: 12,362
King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.King_Chief_Fan has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:27 PM   #6
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $-1595266
Dumbass article. TG is ABSOLUTELY NOT what is wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs. For the love of ****.
Posts: 60,023
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:30 PM   #7
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is online now
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $800478
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buehler445 View Post
Dumbass article. TG is ABSOLUTELY NOT what is wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs. For the love of ****.
I agree. I really hate how the Chiefs are throwing all the veterans under the bus now.

Must be lovely to have all the young guys brainwashed.
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 297,443
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:34 PM   #8
Lonewolf Ed Lonewolf Ed is offline
Veteran
 
Lonewolf Ed's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Olathe, KS
Casino cash: $10606233
My favorite part is where he says if Gonzo is traded, it will be to the Giants, if not some other team. That there is some indisputable logic, since the Chiefs can't trade him to themselves!
Posts: 3,774
Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.Lonewolf Ed is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:35 PM   #9
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $-1595266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claythan View Post
I agree. I really hate how the Chiefs are throwing all the veterans under the bus now.

Must be lovely to have all the young guys brainwashed.
Rediculous. Can you imagine the profound impact that Arrowhead exploding when TG breaks the donko bitch's record against the Donks in a big win? That place would have shattered windows, but no. That would have lit a fire under those young guys more than anything I can think of.

"We were only one score ahead. You can't throw when you are only one score ahead." -Squirmin Herman Edwards.
Posts: 60,023
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:35 PM   #10
cdcox cdcox is offline
www.nfl-forecast.com
 
cdcox's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Casino cash: $-588231
Gonzo's fault we are losing? That's the kind of insigtful analysis that $99 a year buys.
Posts: 46,032
cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:37 PM   #11
Reerun_KC Reerun_KC is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Casino cash: $7231160
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claythan View Post
I agree. I really hate how the Chiefs are throwing all the veterans under the bus now.

Must be lovely to have all the young guys brainwashed.
Herm is running out of options, He needs someone to blame...

IF he can get the fans to hate people like TG, then he might be able to keep his job another year....

He will fault someone...
Posts: 1,529
Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.Reerun_KC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:38 PM   #12
cdcox cdcox is offline
www.nfl-forecast.com
 
cdcox's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Casino cash: $-588231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claythan View Post
Must be lovely to have all the young guys brainwashed.
That's what Herm thinks too. Fact is he doesn't. He is going to 100% lose this team.
Posts: 46,032
cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:39 PM   #13
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is online now
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $800478
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdcox View Post
That's what Herm thinks too. Fact is he doesn't. He is going to 100% lose this team.
I wonder which young guy will be the first to speak up? Bowe? Croyle? DJ?
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 297,443
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:41 PM   #14
cdcox cdcox is offline
www.nfl-forecast.com
 
cdcox's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Casino cash: $-588231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claythan View Post
I wonder which young guy will be the first to lay down? Bowe? Croyle? DJ?
All of them.
Posts: 46,032
cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:43 PM   #15
FAX FAX is offline
testing ... 1, 2, 3
 
FAX's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tennessee
Casino cash: $6753759
"Most of those names are either great players or good guys, but collectively they’re not helping their team win football games. "

Huh?

Some of those "names" are the only guys left who have been on teams that won consistently. This is kind of silly.

FAX
Posts: 44,492
FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:28 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.