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Old 10-13-2008, 08:28 PM  
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The Primary Debate - Democrats

The Democratic Candidates - joey, Cronus, and (if he rejoins the race) sully are hereby invited to post their comments on the following:

1. What unique programs would you introduce to America if elected?

2. What is flawed about your opponents' unique programs?

3. Why are your positions, as noted in the previous two policy papers, superior to those of your opponents?

4. Why are you better qualified to be Chiefsplanet president than your opponents?

The thread will remain open until the primary election, which will be held on October 16th.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:29 PM   #2
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:45 PM   #3
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The combining of the Defense Department and Homeland Security into one department under Crime and Justice, to achieve major saving through reductions in the size of Government.

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Justice and Crime - We are over-policed as it is so enjoy your sex, drugs and rock and roll just pay the tax.

Government - We will bring back investigations of corruption in government as our primary mission. White collar criminals will pay reparations for their crimes, but will no longer be imprisoned, that is a waste of money and valuable Federal prison space.

Drugs - We would would severely decrease enforcement and prosecution and instead we would make virtually all drug use legal and tax it. This would severely hamper drug lords, drug gangs, and of course the Mafia (if it exists ). This will also allow us to empty a large majority of our Federal jail space, which will save almost $50K per prisoner.

Illegal Immigration - We will increase enforcement of immigration laws and borders. Troops along our borders instead of Foreign countries (repealing the Posse Comitatus law against this specific troop usage). We don't need no stinkin fences, the 2500 mile fence concept just won't work. However what we do is impose heavy employer sanctions on hiring illegals, it's about supply and demand. Prosecution will be swift and expedited. Deportation will also be streamlined.

Death Penalty
- Dangerous criminals are a financial drain on state and federal resources and we pamper them too much as it is. If you gave committed three violent crimes or drug deals, or a more serious crime like murder or rape of a minor, then what we are going to do is to slash our prison budget in half and outsource the jailing to the highest bidding third world country.

Once they arrive at the third world country, they may do whatever they want with them with 1/2 of the money, which the third world country will probably be happy to get. They can work them or store them. They cannot kill or torture them, and we would have observers to ensure that didn't happen, and the contract would be renewedon an annual basis, so if they did something really wrong, then the contract goes to a new country.

I'm thinking if you want a deterrent, getting shipped to a country in the Saharan desert might make you think about that third robbery conviction.

Gay Marriage - We would never allow discrimination against gays either by tax code, insurance or legalizing a relationship of a couple in a civil union. We would no longer call legal marriage performed outside a Church, Temple or Mosque to be called marriage. If any Religious group wanted to perform the Marriage ceremony, it would not be a legal contract but only a religious ceremonial union. No religious group would be required to perform Marriages for either Heterosexual or Homosexual couples.
Homeland Security subdepartment - It's a redundant, bloated dept that only made you wait in long airport lines. We will fold it under the Justice and Crime department. However we will increase funding of port inspections, better Border control, and securing our energy and communications infrastructure using the initial savings by eliminating this department and bringing it under Justice and Crime.
Subdepartment of Defense - We know, we know why are you putting this under Justice and Crime, answer, "Because we want to". First you have to know that there is far too much waste in the current DoD, it primarily it's due to the old boys networking between the retired military in government and in the civilian sector. We cannot do much about the civilian sector but by eliminating this incestuous relationship based on all the military retirees in the government, we can reduce the department by 75%. In addition the sub-department will only be provided 3/5ths the original budget. We must end the waste in programs like the production of F-35 and JSF (present fighters will continue to adequately fill those needs). Our policy guidance for the Pentagon will be one of non-intervention except when requested to support a large nation contingent in support of pushing back interventionism on the part of an aggressor nation.

Veterans' Issues -
First of all free Pie and psychiatric care for KCJohnny and Programmer. Funding for adequate Veteran’s benefits, VA care, including mental health for veterans undergoing PTSD and post war stress will be a priority


For this reason alone you should vote for CRONUS/Simply Red.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:00 AM   #4
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It would appear that Cronus is currently winning the Democratic debate.
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:30 PM   #5
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Are you saying programmer and ShortJeep Johnny get free pie with their psychiatric care?
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:34 PM   #6
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Are you saying programmer and ShortJeep Johnny get free pie with their psychiatric care?
no.

Yes.

I'm not sure.

I don't think so.

No, not really.
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:21 PM   #7
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Are you saying programmer and ShortJeep Johnny get free pie with their psychiatric care?
Only if they comply voluntarily.
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