Trent Green's Post Game Press Conference

Ecto-I · 09-10-2001, 01:59 PM

QB Trent Green - On Raiders' defense: "Charles Woodson is one of the best cornerbacks in the league, you got to give him his credit. Eric Allen has played in the league for a long time, he's established and a reliable corner. Our game plan coming in was taking advantage of the Michael Ricks & Tony Gonzalez match up. They did a good job on that today, they doubled Tony (Gonzalez) a lot. We weren't able to utilize some of that stuff early on. That was the frustrating part that our defense was playing so well early. When you look at time of possession,the amount of time we left the defense on the field, that falls on the offense's shoulders when it's the fourth quarter and your defense is on the field that much. We can't afford to leave them out there out long."
On the fumbled snap: "It's a thing where you could point fingers and blame a number of different things. We can't have fumbled snaps. It's something we've talked about since camp and it's obviously drawn some attention during camp. It's not fair to point fingers at any one person. "I haven't had a fumbled snap all preseason. With Brian (Waters) coming in last week when Casey (Wiegmann) had his surgery, we went through the whole St. Louis game and didn't have any problems. We went through a whole week of practice and didn't have any problems. Those were huge plays; because one, we had some momentum going and the second one was very costly. We had an opportunity to get a field goal at the end of the half, and then they turn around get a field goal after that."

On the officiating: "They had some really good calls, and they had some not so good calls. I think if you look at both sides of the ball, we had a lot of mistakes on our side and came up with
some big plays as well as the Raiders had four turnovers and made some plays when it counted. To say they did any differently than both teams played, they made some mistakes just like we did. They need some room for error just like we do."

QB Trent Green - On Raiders' defense: "Charles Woodson is one of the best cornerbacks in the league, you got to give him his credit. Eric Allen has played in the league for a long time,he's established and a reliable corner. Our game plan coming in was taking advantage of the Michael Ricks & Tony Gonzalez match up. They did a good job on that today, they doubled Tony (Gonzalez) a lot. We weren't able to utilize some of that stuff early on. That was the frustrating part that our defense was playing so well early. When you look at time of possession, the amount of time we left the defense on the field, that falls on the offense's shoulders when it's the fourth quarter and your defense is on the field that much. We can't afford to leave them out there out long."

On the fumbled snap: "It's a thing where you could point fingers and blame a number of different things. We can't have fumbled snaps. It's something we've talked about since camp and it's obviously drawn some attention during camp. It's not fair to point fingers at any one person.
"I haven't had a fumbled snap all preseason. With Brian (Waters) coming in last week when Casey (Wiegmann) had his surgery, we went through the whole St. Louis game and didn't have any problems. We went through a whole week of practice and didn't have any problems. Those were huge plays; because one, we had some momentum going and the second one was very costly. We had an opportunity to get a field goal at the end of the half, and then they turn around get a field goal after that."

On the officiating: "They had some really good calls, and they had some not so good calls. I think if you look at both sides of the ball, we had a lot of mistakes on our side and came up with
some big plays as well as the Raiders had four turnovers and made some plays when it counted. To say they did any differently than both teams played, they made some mistakes just like we did. They need some room for error just like we do."

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Man, no finger pointing like our old guy. Kinda hard to get used to;)

Ethelyn · 09-10-2001, 02:01 PM

So what he is saying? With Gonzo being double and tripled team, someone was open. Why does he wait so long to throw the ball? Thank God that all of those passes that he threw into coverage weren't intercepted. We would have really looked bad. (or badder)

**Baby Lee** · 09-10-2001, 02:08 PM

[quote] On the fumbled snap: "It's a thing where you could point fingers and blame a number of different things. We can't have fumbled snaps. It's something we've talked about since camp and it's obviously drawn some attention during camp. It's not fair to point fingers at any one person.
"I haven't had a fumbled snap all preseason. With Brian (Waters) coming in last week when Casey (Wiegmann) had his surgery, we went through the whole St. Louis game and didn't have any problems. We went through a whole week of practice and didn't have any problems. Those were huge plays; because one, we had some momentum going and the second one was very costly. We had an opportunity to get a field goal at the end of the half, and then they turn around get a field goal after that." [/quote]

So what is he saying here?

1. The fumbles were the Center's fault, but I'm too diplomatic to say.
2. The fumbles were my fault, but I can't bring myself to take responsibility.
3. The fumbles didn't happen, it was all a dream.
4. Who cares whose fault it was, if I talk long enough the question will go away.

What happened to the guy who wouldn't pass the buck?

DaWolf · 09-10-2001, 02:09 PM

What he is saying only points out the sad state of our offense. With Tony doubled, none of our other recievers could get open consistently against single coverage. And the Raiders stopped the run with their basic front. It just goes to show that people were right, Tony G is our only weapon real weapon. And basically that's how teams are going to try and defend us for the rest of the year. So until our run game proves to be a threat or some of our other recievers step up, we're not going to have a very good offense...

Ethelyn · 09-10-2001, 02:11 PM

Yeah, but usually when Gonzo was double and tripled covered, Mikhael, Derrick were open. It's like Trent can't read the coverage, and then when he finally gets it, it's too late.

DaWolf · 09-10-2001, 02:13 PM

I did not see Ricks open very much, Derrick I saw get open a couple of times, and Trent missed him. Either way, no one was getting open consistently. The Raiders played great defense...

Ethelyn · 09-10-2001, 02:16 PM

Maybe that was just wishful thinking, but then again you wonder if Oakland had enough defenders to cover the TE's and WR's.

What's the most wideouts you can have on any particular formation, i.e., 3 WR and 2 TE or what?

Can you imagine having Gonzo, Alexander, Minnis, Ricks, Dunn, all lines up? Who would cover whom? That's like a 747 taking off.

**Baby Lee** · 09-10-2001, 02:17 PM

Nevermind . . .

DaWolf · 09-10-2001, 02:23 PM

We'd like to think so, but we're probably overestimating these guys too. I mean Gonzo, fine. Alexander it is still argued he is better off as a 2nd reciever. I don't know about that, but the thing is his practice time was limited with Green, and he was suffering from the achillies injury, so he's not what he could be. Minnis, let's face it, he's a 3rd rounder and a skinny rookie who isn't going to get away from the good defenders very easily. Dunn is nothing more than a journeyman. Unless there is a threat of a ground game, these guys aren't going to be that much of a threat.

You must have 5 offensive linemen out there and the QB, so that's 6 players. The remaining 5 can be a combination of RB's, WR's or TE's...

DaWolf · 09-10-2001, 02:24 PM

Johnny,
I deleted my other post because I realized you were addressing Ecto's last sentence, and not just pulling it out of nowhere... :)

Ethelyn · 09-10-2001, 02:33 PM

Thanks - - I appreciate the help, sir - but still the formation would be one that would be made in heaven

DanT · 09-10-2001, 02:38 PM

From Vermeil's postgame news conference:
[url]http://www.kcchiefs.com/latest/mainnews.asp?storyID=2438&cat=4[/url]
[QUOTE]
Q: What happened to the quarterback-center exchange ?

VERMEIL: "One time the young center (Waters) didn't get it to him and the other time we were hard counting to draw the defense off and he snapped it on a hard count. There's two turnovers right there and the one we were already in field goal range."
[/QUOTE]

Sounds like Waters was to blame but that Green didn't want to say that explicitly because it wouldn't have been constructive. I'd guess that neither Vermeil, Green or Waters would want Green to take blame that isn't truly is. He did a good job of diffusing the blame from his inexperienced colleague and reinforcing the obvious importance of having flawless QB-Center exchanges.

philfree · 09-10-2001, 02:40 PM

There were a few times when we had all Three of our TEs in the game at the same time. Once they all lined up on the left side and went to motion. I forget how that play turned out but I thought it was interesting.
Ethelyn, You dangerously close to sounding like your finger pointing at the QB. It's just the 1st game so let's not make any hasty judgements.

PhilFree :cool:

KCWolfman · 09-10-2001, 05:19 PM

Does the lack of "finger pointing" somehow fit into the W/L column?

My father used to say that you can be told that "your house burned down" by someone vicious, or be told that "your fire insurance is up to date" by someone nice. Either way, you've got nowhere to live for awhile.

Ethelyn · 09-10-2001, 06:07 PM

No sir, I'm not pointing a finger at the QB. Everyone had a hand in this loss. I wouldn't point a finger at anyone.

09-10-2001, 01:59 PM
Ecto-I The only way to Travel. Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the car Casino cash: $2823602	Trent Green's Post Game Press Conference QB Trent Green - On Raiders' defense: "Charles Woodson is one of the best cornerbacks in the league, you got to give him his credit. Eric Allen has played in the league for a long time, he's established and a reliable corner. Our game plan coming in was taking advantage of the Michael Ricks & Tony Gonzalez match up. They did a good job on that today, they doubled Tony (Gonzalez) a lot. We weren't able to utilize some of that stuff early on. That was the frustrating part that our defense was playing so well early. When you look at time of possession,the amount of time we left the defense on the field, that falls on the offense's shoulders when it's the fourth quarter and your defense is on the field that much. We can't afford to leave them out there out long." On the fumbled snap: "It's a thing where you could point fingers and blame a number of different things. We can't have fumbled snaps. It's something we've talked about since camp and it's obviously drawn some attention during camp. It's not fair to point fingers at any one person. "I haven't had a fumbled snap all preseason. With Brian (Waters) coming in last week when Casey (Wiegmann) had his surgery, we went through the whole St. Louis game and didn't have any problems. We went through a whole week of practice and didn't have any problems. Those were huge plays; because one, we had some momentum going and the second one was very costly. We had an opportunity to get a field goal at the end of the half, and then they turn around get a field goal after that." On the officiating: "They had some really good calls, and they had some not so good calls. I think if you look at both sides of the ball, we had a lot of mistakes on our side and came up with some big plays as well as the Raiders had four turnovers and made some plays when it counted. To say they did any differently than both teams played, they made some mistakes just like we did. They need some room for error just like we do." QB Trent Green - On Raiders' defense: "Charles Woodson is one of the best cornerbacks in the league, you got to give him his credit. Eric Allen has played in the league for a long time,he's established and a reliable corner. Our game plan coming in was taking advantage of the Michael Ricks & Tony Gonzalez match up. They did a good job on that today, they doubled Tony (Gonzalez) a lot. We weren't able to utilize some of that stuff early on. That was the frustrating part that our defense was playing so well early. When you look at time of possession, the amount of time we left the defense on the field, that falls on the offense's shoulders when it's the fourth quarter and your defense is on the field that much. We can't afford to leave them out there out long." On the fumbled snap: "It's a thing where you could point fingers and blame a number of different things. We can't have fumbled snaps. It's something we've talked about since camp and it's obviously drawn some attention during camp. It's not fair to point fingers at any one person. "I haven't had a fumbled snap all preseason. With Brian (Waters) coming in last week when Casey (Wiegmann) had his surgery, we went through the whole St. Louis game and didn't have any problems. We went through a whole week of practice and didn't have any problems. Those were huge plays; because one, we had some momentum going and the second one was very costly. We had an opportunity to get a field goal at the end of the half, and then they turn around get a field goal after that." On the officiating: "They had some really good calls, and they had some not so good calls. I think if you look at both sides of the ball, we had a lot of mistakes on our side and came up with some big plays as well as the Raiders had four turnovers and made some plays when it counted. To say they did any differently than both teams played, they made some mistakes just like we did. They need some room for error just like we do." --------------------------------------------- Man, no finger pointing like our old guy. Kinda hard to get used to;)
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09-10-2001, 02:01 PM	#2
Ethelyn Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston Casino cash: $10004900	So what he is saying? With Gonzo being double and tripled team, someone was open. Why does he wait so long to throw the ball? Thank God that all of those passes that he threw into coverage weren't intercepted. We would have really looked bad. (or badder) __________________ Ethelyn L.
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09-10-2001, 02:08 PM	#3
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8028275	[quote] On the fumbled snap: "It's a thing where you could point fingers and blame a number of different things. We can't have fumbled snaps. It's something we've talked about since camp and it's obviously drawn some attention during camp. It's not fair to point fingers at any one person. "I haven't had a fumbled snap all preseason. With Brian (Waters) coming in last week when Casey (Wiegmann) had his surgery, we went through the whole St. Louis game and didn't have any problems. We went through a whole week of practice and didn't have any problems. Those were huge plays; because one, we had some momentum going and the second one was very costly. We had an opportunity to get a field goal at the end of the half, and then they turn around get a field goal after that." [/quote] So what is he saying here? 1. The fumbles were the Center's fault, but I'm too diplomatic to say. 2. The fumbles were my fault, but I can't bring myself to take responsibility. 3. The fumbles didn't happen, it was all a dream. 4. Who cares whose fault it was, if I talk long enough the question will go away. What happened to the guy who wouldn't pass the buck? __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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09-10-2001, 02:09 PM	#4
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	What he is saying only points out the sad state of our offense. With Tony doubled, none of our other recievers could get open consistently against single coverage. And the Raiders stopped the run with their basic front. It just goes to show that people were right, Tony G is our only weapon real weapon. And basically that's how teams are going to try and defend us for the rest of the year. So until our run game proves to be a threat or some of our other recievers step up, we're not going to have a very good offense...
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09-10-2001, 02:11 PM	#5
Ethelyn Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah, but usually when Gonzo was double and tripled covered, Mikhael, Derrick were open. It's like Trent can't read the coverage, and then when he finally gets it, it's too late. __________________ Ethelyn L.
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09-10-2001, 02:13 PM	#6
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	I did not see Ricks open very much, Derrick I saw get open a couple of times, and Trent missed him. Either way, no one was getting open consistently. The Raiders played great defense...
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09-10-2001, 02:16 PM	#7
Ethelyn Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston Casino cash: $10004900	Maybe that was just wishful thinking, but then again you wonder if Oakland had enough defenders to cover the TE's and WR's. What's the most wideouts you can have on any particular formation, i.e., 3 WR and 2 TE or what? Can you imagine having Gonzo, Alexander, Minnis, Ricks, Dunn, all lines up? Who would cover whom? That's like a 747 taking off. __________________ Ethelyn L.
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09-10-2001, 02:17 PM	#8
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8028275	Nevermind . . . __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W. Last edited by Baby Lee; 09-10-2001 at 02:20 PM..
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09-10-2001, 02:23 PM	#9
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	We'd like to think so, but we're probably overestimating these guys too. I mean Gonzo, fine. Alexander it is still argued he is better off as a 2nd reciever. I don't know about that, but the thing is his practice time was limited with Green, and he was suffering from the achillies injury, so he's not what he could be. Minnis, let's face it, he's a 3rd rounder and a skinny rookie who isn't going to get away from the good defenders very easily. Dunn is nothing more than a journeyman. Unless there is a threat of a ground game, these guys aren't going to be that much of a threat. You must have 5 offensive linemen out there and the QB, so that's 6 players. The remaining 5 can be a combination of RB's, WR's or TE's...
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09-10-2001, 02:24 PM	#10
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Johnny, I deleted my other post because I realized you were addressing Ecto's last sentence, and not just pulling it out of nowhere... :)
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09-10-2001, 02:33 PM	#11
Ethelyn Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston Casino cash: $10004900	Thanks - - I appreciate the help, sir - but still the formation would be one that would be made in heaven __________________ Ethelyn L.
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09-10-2001, 02:38 PM	#12
DanT Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Davis, CA Casino cash: $1621711	From Vermeil's postgame news conference: [url]http://www.kcchiefs.com/latest/mainnews.asp?storyID=2438&cat=4[/url] [QUOTE] Q: What happened to the quarterback-center exchange ? VERMEIL: "One time the young center (Waters) didn't get it to him and the other time we were hard counting to draw the defense off and he snapped it on a hard count. There's two turnovers right there and the one we were already in field goal range." [/QUOTE] Sounds like Waters was to blame but that Green didn't want to say that explicitly because it wouldn't have been constructive. I'd guess that neither Vermeil, Green or Waters would want Green to take blame that isn't truly is. He did a good job of diffusing the blame from his inexperienced colleague and reinforcing the obvious importance of having flawless QB-Center exchanges.
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09-10-2001, 02:40 PM	#13
philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $-2213802	There were a few times when we had all Three of our TEs in the game at the same time. Once they all lined up on the left side and went to motion. I forget how that play turned out but I thought it was interesting. Ethelyn, You dangerously close to sounding like your finger pointing at the QB. It's just the 1st game so let's not make any hasty judgements. PhilFree :cool: __________________ [/SIGPIC] Last edited by philfree; 09-10-2001 at 09:51 PM..
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09-10-2001, 05:19 PM	#14
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Does the lack of "finger pointing" somehow fit into the W/L column? My father used to say that you can be told that "your house burned down" by someone vicious, or be told that "your fire insurance is up to date" by someone nice. Either way, you've got nowhere to live for awhile.
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09-10-2001, 06:07 PM	#15
Ethelyn Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston Casino cash: $10004900	No sir, I'm not pointing a finger at the QB. Everyone had a hand in this loss. I wouldn't point a finger at anyone. __________________ Ethelyn L.
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