Football Another stupid coach thread...

oldandslow · 01-23-2009, 10:57 AM

Not letting kids drink water during practice when the temps are in the 90's is NOT a good idea.

http://www.wlky.com/cnn-news/18541445/detail.html

A football coach has been charged with reckless homicide in the heat-related death of a high school athlete.

David Jason Stinson was indicted Thursday.

Max Gilpin, 15, died Aug. 23, 2008, three days after he collapsed at a Pleasure Ridge Park High School football practice after coaches allegedly refused to let players take water breaks. Temperatures were in the 90s.

Gilpin was rushed to a hospital where he died three days later. The coroner's report shows Gilpin's body temperature was 107 degrees when he passed out.

"I don't feel it was proper at all," said Commonwealth's Attorney Dave Stingel. "They should've been much more concerned and responded much quicker."

Stengel asked police to investigate wrongdoing in the teen's death.

"A reasonable person should have understood that this result could happen, fails to perceive that and prevent the end result. That's the level of proof we will have to go at," the prosecutor said. "I knew it could go either way. I made no recommendation. We put it in front of the grand jury -- told them what we saw as the facts and they made their decision."

Stengel said the coach asked to testify before the grand jury, but members refused to hear him.

Stinson's attorney said his client maintains his innocence and looks forward to his day in court to clear his name.

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Jason Stinson

"It is a tragedy, and it is unfortunate but I don't think the indictment of coach Stinson doesn't necessarily resolve that issue," said Alex Dathorne, Stinson's attorney.

Stinson is expected to appear at an arraignment Monday in Louisville.

JCPS representative Lauren Roberts said Stinson has been notified of the indictment and has been reassigned immediately away from PRP to a district office pending the outcome of the case.

In a statement released Thursday afternoon, Gilpin's family said, "We intend to closely monitor the prosecution and expect anyone responsible for Max's death to be held accountable."

**Gonzo** · 01-23-2009, 11:00 AM

I thought this was going to be about Herm. Thread title is misleading....Dammit

RippedmyFlesh · 01-23-2009, 11:05 AM

AS horrible as this guy is 30 years ago alot of coaches were stupid like that. I had coaches who would threaten to take a water break away if we messed up.I had a coach who used to put salt tablets in the team's gatorade .Yech that was horrible.So i used to have one of the cheerleaders get me a normal drink during games.

Brock · 01-23-2009, 11:08 AM

They used to feed us salt tablets too.

**MahiMike** · 01-23-2009, 11:25 AM

What is this? 1975? In FL, they take water breaks every 15 minutes. Gotta stay an extra half hour for all the breaks.

RippedmyFlesh · 01-23-2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

They used to feed us salt tablets too.

I am sure my cardiologist today thinks those stupid salt tablets were a good idea.

EyePod · 01-23-2009, 11:58 AM

A kid on my team once passed out because of dehydration. It wasn't our coaches fault, the kid didn't drink water during a break. For the rest of the season, he would force us to drink tons of water.

EyePod · 01-23-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

AS horrible as this guy is 30 years ago alot of coaches were stupid like that. I had coaches who would threaten to take a water break away if we messed up.I had a coach who used to put salt tablets in the team's gatorade .Yech that was horrible.So i used to have one of the cheerleaders get me a normal drink during games.

Did you give her a special drink after the game?

CoMoChief · 01-23-2009, 12:02 PM

My motto is that you perform better when you're not deathly thirsty.

If someone needs water, let em get water......then get your ass back in the drill or whatever that was going on at that time.

DJ's left nut · 01-23-2009, 12:27 PM

30 years ago? Try 10.

This just doesn't seem all that amazing to me.

01-23-2009, 10:57 AM
oldandslow Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $3713149	Another stupid coach thread... Not letting kids drink water during practice when the temps are in the 90's is NOT a good idea. http://www.wlky.com/cnn-news/18541445/detail.html A football coach has been charged with reckless homicide in the heat-related death of a high school athlete. David Jason Stinson was indicted Thursday. Max Gilpin, 15, died Aug. 23, 2008, three days after he collapsed at a Pleasure Ridge Park High School football practice after coaches allegedly refused to let players take water breaks. Temperatures were in the 90s. Gilpin was rushed to a hospital where he died three days later. The coroner's report shows Gilpin's body temperature was 107 degrees when he passed out. "I don't feel it was proper at all," said Commonwealth's Attorney Dave Stingel. "They should've been much more concerned and responded much quicker." Stengel asked police to investigate wrongdoing in the teen's death. "A reasonable person should have understood that this result could happen, fails to perceive that and prevent the end result. That's the level of proof we will have to go at," the prosecutor said. "I knew it could go either way. I made no recommendation. We put it in front of the grand jury -- told them what we saw as the facts and they made their decision." Stengel said the coach asked to testify before the grand jury, but members refused to hear him. Stinson's attorney said his client maintains his innocence and looks forward to his day in court to clear his name. WLKY File Image Jason Stinson "It is a tragedy, and it is unfortunate but I don't think the indictment of coach Stinson doesn't necessarily resolve that issue," said Alex Dathorne, Stinson's attorney. Stinson is expected to appear at an arraignment Monday in Louisville. JCPS representative Lauren Roberts said Stinson has been notified of the indictment and has been reassigned immediately away from PRP to a district office pending the outcome of the case. In a statement released Thursday afternoon, Gilpin's family said, "We intend to closely monitor the prosecution and expect anyone responsible for Max's death to be held accountable."
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01-23-2009, 11:05 AM	#3
RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	AS horrible as this guy is 30 years ago alot of coaches were stupid like that. I had coaches who would threaten to take a water break away if we messed up.I had a coach who used to put salt tablets in the team's gatorade .Yech that was horrible.So i used to have one of the cheerleaders get me a normal drink during games.
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01-23-2009, 11:08 AM	#4
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01-23-2009, 11:25 AM	#5
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01-23-2009, 11:58 AM	#7
EyePod Forgetting 2013 season end. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Around Casino cash: $9995735	A kid on my team once passed out because of dehydration. It wasn't our coaches fault, the kid didn't drink water during a break. For the rest of the season, he would force us to drink tons of water. __________________ I did not believe in Mahomes until week 1. I've been woke ever since. I'm on board this freight train.
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7662254	My motto is that you perform better when you're not deathly thirsty. If someone needs water, let em get water......then get your ass back in the drill or whatever that was going on at that time.
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01-23-2009, 12:27 PM	#10
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-930901	30 years ago? Try 10. This just doesn't seem all that amazing to me.
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