A Hypothetical Draft Board

**Rain Man** · 10:57 PM

Imagine that you are the holiest of Piolis, and have the following players available in the draft (see poll). If you were the Chiefs with the #3 pick in the draft, which would be the top three players on your draft board?

Ahead of each player is a number. This number is their projected percentile in the league, where a 95 is better than 95 percent of league starters, a 50 is better than 50 percent of league starters, etc.

You will be on the clock as soon as the poll is released.

**cdcox** · 02-14-2009, 10:43 PM

Am I pretending I'm the pre-Carl Chiefs or the post-Carl Chiefs?

**Rain Man** · 02-14-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Am I pretending I'm the pre-Carl Chiefs or the post-Carl Chiefs?

You are pretending to be either God or Scott Pioli, since they would probably make similar choices.

Mecca · 02-14-2009, 10:53 PM

We have the Chiefs team this year?

**Rain Man** · 02-14-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

We have the Chiefs team this year?

Yep. You are Scott Pioli. Or Haley. Or whoever's making the pick.

Mecca · 02-14-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yep. You are Scott Pioli. Or Haley. Or whoever's making the pick.

If it worked out that way then the 1st 2 QBs and the DE are the best players...even the 3rd QB is a top 5 player if you can gaurantee a QB being better than 80% of the league he's a super high pick.

**Rain Man** · 02-14-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If it worked out that way then the 1st 2 QBs and the DE are the best players...even the 3rd QB is a top 5 player if you can gaurantee a QB being better than 80% of the league he's a super high pick.

Yeah, after I posted it I thought I should've gone more with a 95-85-75 split, but by then it was too late. And yeah, I think an 80 percent guy would be the 7th-best QB in the league, but it's interesting that most people so far would eschew him for the best DE in the league.

Mecca · 02-14-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yeah, after I posted it I thought I should've gone more with a 95-85-75 split, but by then it was too late. And yeah, I think an 80 percent guy would be the 7th-best QB in the league, but it's interesting that most people so far would eschew him for the best DE in the league.

It would be a very difficult call, I'd consider those a tossup.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-14-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If it worked out that way then the 1st 2 QBs and the DE are the best players...even the 3rd QB is a top 5 player if you can gaurantee a QB being better than 80% of the league he's a super high pick.

I basically looked at it this way: The first QB has the potential to be better than anyone but Manning, the second would be better than anyone save Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, and right up there with Rivers and Cutler, if not slightly ahead.

The DE is basically Mario Williams.

QB, QB, DE.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-14-2009, 11:03 PM

Shit.

I misread the poll.

I'm the dumbass responsible for the LT.

I read that as my personal draft philosophy, not as the Chiefs with the 3rd pick.

Should have voted QB, QB, DE.

**Rain Man** · 02-14-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It would be a very difficult call, I'd consider those a tossup.

After I voted, I thought I might change my vote to get the league's 7th-best QB, but let's ponder it. If the best DE in the league was a Jared Allen without the strikes, who's the 7th-best QB in the league? Maybe the guy after Brees, Cutler, Rivers, Manning, Roethlisberger, and Brady? So maybe....McNabb or Palmer (normal year) or maybe Matt Ryan or something? (I'm not looking at stats, so I may be messing this up.)

A clean Jared Allen versus a guy with McNabb's current productivity. The more I think about it, even though I love defense, it'd still be hard to pass up a good solid QB who's an injury replacement for the pro bowl.

ChiefsCountry · 02-14-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Shit.

I misread the poll.

I'm the dumbass responsible for the LT.

I read that as my personal draft philosophy, not as the Chiefs with the 3rd pick.

Should have voted QB, QB, DE.

Come on we know you are a true fan.

**Rain Man** · 02-14-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I basically looked at it this way: The first QB has the potential to be better than anyone but Manning, the second would be better than anyone save Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, and right up there with Rivers and Cutler, if not slightly ahead.

The DE is basically Mario Williams.

QB, QB, DE.

So you wouldn't take the good solid QB? I think Mecca's right in that it's a tossup. I voted for the DE too, but it'd be hard to resist getting a solid QB.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-14-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

So you wouldn't take the good solid QB? I think Mecca's right in that it's a tossup. I voted for the DE too, but it'd be hard to resist getting a solid QB.

Well, I guess I look at it this way:

You are going to be paying them roughly equal money, and the positions are both highly valued. But I think that it's a lot easier to find QBs whose potential is merely solid than Mario Williams type players.

Breaking it down on a prospect level, it would be Joe Flacco's ceiling, Matt Hasselbeck's, or maybe Aaron Rodgers' against Mario Williams'. I think I go with Williams there.

Now, if it's Brees, Palmer, Big Ben, Brady, Manning, Cutler, Rivers, or Matt Ryan, I take those guys, but a QB with that kind of potential is just enough of a cut below for me to worry.

**Rain Man** · 02-14-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Well, I guess I look at it this way:

You are going to be paying them roughly equal money, and the positions are both highly valued. But I think that it's a lot easier to find QBs whose potential is merely solid than Mario Williams type players.

Breaking it down on a prospect level, it would be Joe Flacco's ceiling, Matt Hasselbeck's, or maybe Aaron Rodgers' against Mario Williams'. I think I go with Williams there.

Now, if it's Brees, Palmer, Big Ben, Brady, Manning, Cutler, Rivers, or Matt Ryan, I take those guys, but a QB with that kind of potential is just enough of a cut below for me to worry.

Yeah, I could agree with this. I'm having an inner conflict on whether you nail down an important position or get a star. I'm a big believer overall in getting stars, even if it's not the QB. At the #3 pick, you should get someone that people have to gameplan around.

Maybe I'm circling back around to taking the DE.

View Poll Results: Which THREE players are at the top of your draft board?
98 - QB	31	96.88%
90 - QB	13	40.63%
80 - QB	0	0%
98 - RB	0	0%
90 - RB	0	0%
80 - RB	0	0%
98 - WR	4	12.50%
90 - WR	0	0%
80 - WR	0	0%
98 - TE	1	3.13%
90 - TE	0	0%
80 - TE	0	0%
98 - LT	5	15.63%
90 - LT	0	0%
80 - LT	0	0%
98 - G or C (whatever position you prefer)	0	0%
90 - G or C (whatever position you prefer)	0	0%
80 - G or C (whatever position you prefer)	0	0%
98 - RT	0	0%
90 - RT	0	0%
80 - RT	0	0%
98 - DE	29	90.63%
90 - DE	0	0%
80 - DE	0	0%
98 - DT	3	9.38%
90 - DT	0	0%
80 - DT	0	0%
98 - OLB	2	6.25%
90 - OLB	0	0%
80 - OLB	0	0%
98 - ILB	4	12.50%
90 - ILB	0	0%
80 - ILB	0	0%
98 - CB	0	0%
90 - CB	0	0%
80 - CB	0	0%
98 - S	0	0%
90 - S	0	0%
80 - S	0	0%
98 - K	1	3.13%
90 - K	1	3.13%
80 - K	1	3.13%
Trade the pick for Cassell	0	0%
Trade the pick for Michael Vick	0	0%
Trade the pick for Bronko Nagurski	0	0%
Trade the pick for some coach (I'm scarred by the past.)	0	0%
Re-draft Derrick Thomas, though this is one pick too high.	1	3.13%
Trade up to re-draft Neil Smith	0	0%
I don't understand the trade options.	0	0%
I wouldn't use the pick. It's too high.	0	0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

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