Chiefs New Acquisitions In The 4-3

RustShack · 03-24-2009, 11:07 PM

The players we have brought in appear to be more of 3-4 guys, but since we will still be running a lot of the 4-3 where does Vrabel fit in? I know he used to be a DE...

RustShack · 03-24-2009, 11:37 PM

I guess what I'm really asking is does Vrabel have what it takes to be a good RE for us, or would he be a strong side LB.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-24-2009, 11:41 PM

I was of the inclination that he'll play MLB in the 4-3 set.

bdeg · 03-24-2009, 11:41 PM

LB

DE on 3rd & loooong

CoMoChief · 03-24-2009, 11:45 PM

Doesnt matter, this defense will continue to blow ass for another 2-3 seasons IMO.

RustShack · 03-25-2009, 12:24 AM

I think we will still be running mostly the 4-3 for a little bit, so Dorsey had best break out fast unless he wants to get lost in the 3-4. If Dorsey can quickly place himself among the top DT's in the NFL we would most likely stick with the 4-3 and at most run a hybrid. I know it takes a few years, and he was even miss used last year. I don't know if that will help him or hurt him...

philfree · 03-25-2009, 12:28 AM

The article that was posted a little while back that discussed the 4-3 under tells what we're are gonna do. We'll be in the 4-3 but our RDE will be lined up in a two point stance and he will rush the passer exclusively. The fact that he's in a two point stance makes it kind of 3-4ish.

PhilFree

Hammock Parties · 03-25-2009, 01:04 AM

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htismaqe · 03-25-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

The players we have brought in appear to be more of 3-4 guys, but since we will still be running a lot of the 4-3 where does Vrabel fit in? I know he used to be a DE...

Where did this idea come from?

The entire coaching staff has 3-4 experience, that we know. And the players we've brought in, by and large, are a better fit for the 3-4.

We ASSUME that because our existing players don't fit the 3-4 all that well, the coaching staff will concede and run a 4-3 or at least a hybrid the 1st season.

But that's all it is - an assumption.

beach tribe · 03-25-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Where did this idea come from?

The entire coaching staff has 3-4 experience, that we know. And the players we've brought in, by and large, are a better fit for the 3-4.

We ASSUME that because our existing players don't fit the 3-4 all that well, the coaching staff will concede and run a 4-3 or at least a hybrid the 1st season.

But that's all it is - an assumption.

Nope. The coaching staff themselves said we're gonna be running 4-3, and gradually trying to transition to 3-4, and would probably be running a hybrid of the two forever.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-25-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

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talastan · 03-25-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

NEW ACQUISITIONS!

YOU'RE A FEISTY ONE! BUT YOU'LL SOON LEARN SOME RESPECT! I HAVE NEED FOR YOU ON HALEY'S SAIL BARGE! AND I THINK YOU'LL FILL IN NICELY!

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Radar Chief · 03-25-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Nope. The coaching staff themselves said we're gonna be running 4-3, and gradually trying to transition to 3-4, and would probably be running a hybrid of the two forever.

Yea, Haley states the Chiefs will “potentially” be transitioning to a 3-4 in this interview.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=204714

RustShack · 03-25-2009, 10:25 AM

"That's why I say we're going to be in a transitional period here (to the 3-4). We may never go fully that way. You just don't know. We have to see what we have. That's part of the reason for having the camp before the draft."

Also a hybrid is still like the 4-3... All of our coaches may have 3-4 experience, but they also have 4-3 experience... and our DC has hybrid experience...

htismaqe · 03-25-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Nope. The coaching staff themselves said we're gonna be running 4-3, and gradually trying to transition to 3-4, and would probably be running a hybrid of the two forever.

They haven't said anything DEFINITIVELY. We MIGHT do this, we MIGHT do that.

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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3036954	"That's why I say we're going to be in a transitional period here (to the 3-4). We may never go fully that way. You just don't know. We have to see what we have. That's part of the reason for having the camp before the draft." Also a hybrid is still like the 4-3... All of our coaches may have 3-4 experience, but they also have 4-3 experience... and our DC has hybrid experience... __________________
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