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Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-07-2009, 03:59 PM

Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham uses straight talk, tough love
by Tom Kowalski
Thursday August 06, 2009, 9:28 PM

ALLEN PARK -- There are a lot of words that could be used to describe Detroit Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham. Tact is not one of them.

Cunningham, 63, has coached in the NFL for 28 years, and while he loves his players, it's tough love.

"He's going to challenge you,'' said Lions coach Jim Schwartz, who coached with Cunningham for several years with the Tennessee Titans. "If you're used to a coach that sort of turns the other way when you make a bad play and then high-fives you when you make a good play, that's not going to happen.

"If you're used to somebody who calls it the way they see it, who will be aggressive and not afraid to holler, then you're going to be comfortable with Gun."

Cunningham's bluntness sometimes can catch new players off guard, but Schwartz said it's not a long learning process.

"I think you adjust pretty quickly," Schwartz said. "It's like jumping in the pool. You're not easing into that one, you're not splashing a little water and putting a toe in. You're diving full in to Gunther and, like I said, you usually get used to it pretty quick."

After Thursday's training camp workout, Cunningham stepped to the podium to be interviewed, but not all the television cameramen were ready.

"C'mon, you TV guys, you're as slow as our blitzers," said Cunningham, enjoying the crack on two groups with one insult.

The Lions' defense didn't perform well during the blitz period at practice, and that was first on Cunningham's mind.

"I'm not used to guys coming slow," he said. "And when we send them, they're going to get there. We have to have a little attitude adjustment meeting after this practice, so they're going to hear it loud and clear."

Here are a few more examples of Cunningham's inability to beat around the bush.

On the difference of practicing with pads and without:

"When you put pads on, you find the real men. There are a lot of frauds around and, you know, the coaches are, too. They talk a good game, and you watch them coach and they don't do it. Players do that same thing. And sometimes, the guys that you don't expect to be real tough guys, they show up and you go, 'My God, was I wrong with this guy.' "

About Detroit's defensive line and their coach, Bob Karmelowicz:

"Well, they're all working really hard and they're showing a lot more toughness than I saw on tape (from last year). They've got the crotchiest old man coaching them. I think Bob Karmelowicz is probably the most miserable guy I've ever coached with, but he's probably the smartest and most consistent coach.

"(Assistant defensive line coach) Kris Kocurek is hardcore tough -- he was raised under Jim Washburn, the Titans coach who's flat nuts, but he's a good friend of mine."

On Lions general manager Martin Mayhew and the scouting of free agents:

"The thing I love about Martin Mayhew and Jim is that we have great communication going every day. Martin's trying to get me to look at players, and I'm trying to get the practice scripts done.

"Last night, he had me look at 75 plays of a (free agent) player and he asked me, 'How'd you like him?' and I said, 'Eh, I've seen a lot better and you just wasted a lot of my time.' But that's my job, you know. You've got to look, and you've got to keep looking."

Jethopper · 08-07-2009, 04:12 PM

Shut up, Melvin.

Titty Meat · 08-07-2009, 04:16 PM

Bob Karmelowicz is still a coach? Detroit might not win a game this year.

Coogs · 08-07-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

"Last night, he had me look at 75 plays of a (free agent) player and he asked me, 'How'd you like him?' and I said, 'Eh, I've seen a lot better and you just wasted a lot of my time.' But that's my job, you know. You've got to look, and you've got to keep looking."

Player was obviously no Kendrell Bell.

Hammock Parties · 08-07-2009, 04:19 PM

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"I'm not used to guys coming slow,"

Ghey.

Hammock Parties · 08-07-2009, 04:20 PM

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There are a lot of frauds around and, you know, the coaches are, too. They talk a good game, and you watch them coach and they don't do it.

OH THE IRONY!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-07-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jethopper

Shut up, Melvin.

Don't you have some candy dispensing from the back of your windowless van to do?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-07-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

OH THE IRONY!!!

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yah I know, preseason fodder and all, however I think I like this guy.
Doesn't Raised on Riots live in KC? Might he have an interesting perspective on this guy?

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Indeed he does, and the perspective is this:

Epic Fraud.

"****her", as we've come to call him, is the beneficiary of the brain work of one Martin Schottenheimer and one William Cowher. The core of the Chiefs defense that was so dominating in the mid to late 90's was initially put together by Bill and Marty.

And when you have DT and Neil Smith, you can damned well put a pair of earphones on a chimpanzee and name him "D-Coord".

And we did.

Under Herm, ****her was given everything he asked for and the end result was a defense that exhibited piss-poor fundamentals( tackling, anyone? ),players being out of position much too frequently, and the worst sack record in the NFL.

Did I mention giving up 158 ground yards per-game? Quite so.

Finally, I can say only two things; Swartz would be wise to put a short-leash on ****her like Marty did, and good luck Detroit.

Titty Meat · 08-07-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Wha?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-07-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Wha?

What wha?

08-07-2009, 03:59 PM
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Poor Schwartz( snicker...) Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham uses straight talk, tough love by Tom Kowalski Thursday August 06, 2009, 9:28 PM ALLEN PARK -- There are a lot of words that could be used to describe Detroit Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham. Tact is not one of them. Cunningham, 63, has coached in the NFL for 28 years, and while he loves his players, it's tough love. "He's going to challenge you,'' said Lions coach Jim Schwartz, who coached with Cunningham for several years with the Tennessee Titans. "If you're used to a coach that sort of turns the other way when you make a bad play and then high-fives you when you make a good play, that's not going to happen. "If you're used to somebody who calls it the way they see it, who will be aggressive and not afraid to holler, then you're going to be comfortable with Gun." Cunningham's bluntness sometimes can catch new players off guard, but Schwartz said it's not a long learning process. "I think you adjust pretty quickly," Schwartz said. "It's like jumping in the pool. You're not easing into that one, you're not splashing a little water and putting a toe in. You're diving full in to Gunther and, like I said, you usually get used to it pretty quick." After Thursday's training camp workout, Cunningham stepped to the podium to be interviewed, but not all the television cameramen were ready. "C'mon, you TV guys, you're as slow as our blitzers," said Cunningham, enjoying the crack on two groups with one insult. The Lions' defense didn't perform well during the blitz period at practice, and that was first on Cunningham's mind. "I'm not used to guys coming slow," he said. "And when we send them, they're going to get there. We have to have a little attitude adjustment meeting after this practice, so they're going to hear it loud and clear." Here are a few more examples of Cunningham's inability to beat around the bush. On the difference of practicing with pads and without: "When you put pads on, you find the real men. There are a lot of frauds around and, you know, the coaches are, too. They talk a good game, and you watch them coach and they don't do it. Players do that same thing. And sometimes, the guys that you don't expect to be real tough guys, they show up and you go, 'My God, was I wrong with this guy.' " About Detroit's defensive line and their coach, Bob Karmelowicz: "Well, they're all working really hard and they're showing a lot more toughness than I saw on tape (from last year). They've got the crotchiest old man coaching them. I think Bob Karmelowicz is probably the most miserable guy I've ever coached with, but he's probably the smartest and most consistent coach. "(Assistant defensive line coach) Kris Kocurek is hardcore tough -- he was raised under Jim Washburn, the Titans coach who's flat nuts, but he's a good friend of mine." On Lions general manager Martin Mayhew and the scouting of free agents: "The thing I love about Martin Mayhew and Jim is that we have great communication going every day. Martin's trying to get me to look at players, and I'm trying to get the practice scripts done. "Last night, he had me look at 75 plays of a (free agent) player and he asked me, 'How'd you like him?' and I said, 'Eh, I've seen a lot better and you just wasted a lot of my time.' But that's my job, you know. You've got to look, and you've got to keep looking."
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