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View Poll Results: Pick the baddest villain from each pair.
Match 1 2 3.64%
Greg Robinson, coordinator and spinner 11 20.00%
Li n Ell iott, K and wide left, wide left, wide left 44 80.00%
Match 2 3 5.45%
Carl Peterson, GM who coined term STFD and ST FU 38 69.09%
Herm Edwards, Coach, deer in headlights, avid post-game film studier 16 29.09%
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:27 PM   Topic Starter
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Chiefs Villains: The Final (Hit them with a two by) Four
Last four. These guys are the Dukes and North Carolinas of the villain world.
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:30 PM   #2
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:31 PM   #3
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I don't get why King Carl has made it this far. Yeah, the last decade has been abysmal, but he brought the Chiefs back from the dead. 75% of the members of this board probably wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for him turning this franchise around.
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I don't get why King Carl has made it this far. Yeah, the last decade has been abysmal, but he brought the Chiefs back from the dead. 75% of the members of this board probably wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for him turning this franchise around.

It's an odd process, but the act of producing these polls brings me forgiveness to a lot of these guys. Ell iott didn't want to miss those kicks, and in fact he wanted to make them more than anybody else. Peterson wanted to field a Super Bowl team. Greg Robinson thought he had a great plan on defense. Jozwiak and Ryan Sims and Blackledge all certainly aspired to be stars.

Few of these guys are really villains. They were by and large wanting the same things we want as fans. The only villainous acts I can see are:

Dan Williams holding out for a year.

As you noted, Tony Casilias screwing us over and not showing up.

Elmore Stephens kidnapping and murdering a guy, but that technically happened after he was gone (though I suspect he was distracted during his short career)

Probably some high draft picks who were too lazy to do what they needed to do to thrive, though I can't point at individual picks and say which ones were lazy and which ones simply didn't have what it takes but tried hard.

Probably some guys who left the Chiefs for rivals, though there are some mitigating factors. If Kevin Ross was being told he wasn't in the long term plans of the Chiefs, I don't begrudge him playing for the Falcons and Chargers. Well, I do a little bit, but I can see his point.

Carl undoubtedly let his ego get in the way sometimes. It's hard to doubt that. But his other moves resurrected the franchise.

Paul Hackett interviewing for other jobs while he was supposed to be preparing the Chiefs for a playoff game, and being on record of giving up on series because "the defense will get the ball back".
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:49 PM   #5
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I hope CBS gets its foot caught in farm machinery. Screw CBS.
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I don't get why King Carl has made it this far. Yeah, the last decade has been abysmal, but he brought the Chiefs back from the dead. 75% of the members of this board probably wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for him turning this franchise around.
...and had he left before he returned the franchise back to hell he would have been revered.
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WHo was that defensive back from the Giants that Carl signed around 98, that was a huge free agent bust??
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Carlton Gray I believe
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