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Hootie · 11-02-2009, 08:50 PM

The Phillies are down 3-1 in the series...

Cliff Lee is awesome.

So...they take a 6-1 lead after 3 innings. Why not take a risk...be smart...PULL Lee after 3 innings...put in Happ...and see if they can keep Lee fresh for a potential game 7?

I know the Yankees are explosive...and I know that doing that would have a potential HUGE backlash if the Yankees came back and won...

But assuming they take it to 3-2...if Pedro can pull it out in game 6...who's betting on the Yankees to beat Cliff Lee in game 7?

**Buck** · 11-02-2009, 08:51 PM

C.C. Sabathia is a pretty good pitcher man.

Hootie · 11-02-2009, 08:54 PM

I'm not saying he isn't...

But I can't see any scenario where Cole Hamels beats C.C. in game 7...Hamels has looked like ballsack all year long.

Hootie · 11-02-2009, 08:54 PM

this is something only Tony LaRussa would try...no one else has the balls to do it.

Pioli Zombie · 11-02-2009, 08:57 PM

Not 6-1. If it was 11-1. The Yankees can score 5 runs pretty quick.
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chiefzilla1501 · 11-02-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

The Phillies are down 3-1 in the series...

Cliff Lee is awesome.

So...they take a 6-1 lead after 3 innings. Why not take a risk...be smart...PULL Lee after 3 innings...put in Happ...and see if they can keep Lee fresh for a potential game 7?

I know the Yankees are explosive...and I know that doing that would have a potential HUGE backlash if the Yankees came back and won...

But assuming they take it to 3-2...if Pedro can pull it out in game 6...who's betting on the Yankees to beat Cliff Lee in game 7?

1) he's never done it before in his career.
2) you have to win today before you worry about tomorrow

Lots of reasons why. I wonder, though, if Manuel regrets not putting him out there on three days rest, though, last game.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 11-02-2009, 09:18 PM

No. If you were going to pitch Cliff Lee on short rest you do it yesterday when he had 4 days rest and then another 4 days.

Mecca · 11-02-2009, 09:20 PM

They wouldn't do this just because if they were they'd have pitched him yesterday and the Phillies bullpen is awful.

Pioli Zombie · 11-02-2009, 10:04 PM

There was a similar debate in the 1998 Divison Series Indians-Red Sox. Indians were up 2-1. Pedro Martinez was available to pitch Game 4 on short rest. But Jimy Williams. Went with Pete Shourek at home figuring he had a better shot winning with Shourek at home Pedro winning the deciding game 5 at Cleveland than Pedro winning Game 4 and Brett Saberhagen or Tim Wakefield winning Game 5. Damn near worked too. Shourek pitched the game of his life and left leading 1-0 before Tom Gordon blew his first save of the year.
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RJ · 11-02-2009, 10:08 PM

Gotta win the game you're in. You want to trust your bullpen to hold the Yankees for 6 innings?

There's a reason why relief pitchers aren't starters.

Hootie · 11-02-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

Gotta win the game you're in. You want to trust your bullpen to hold the Yankees for 6 innings?

There's a reason why relief pitchers aren't starters.

Just something I'd consider...I'm still baffled about not starting him on 4 days rest. So dumb.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-02-2009, 10:11 PM

So you tax your bullpen to win this game and then what tomorrow when Pedro goes? There is no way Pedro is going 7 innings.

Consistent1 · 11-02-2009, 10:18 PM

Top of the ninth....one on....no outs. The bullpen would have blown this sucka for shizzle...they aint out of the woods yet anyway. Another hit with no outs for Yanks.
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kcxiv · 11-03-2009, 01:01 AM

Happ should have started game 4 instead of Blanton. Happ is not a bullpen guy, he's a legit starter. He's just a rookie. He had a great season, possibly ROY

**Dylan** · 11-03-2009, 01:03 AM

The Yankees are the underdogs...

ya'll got figured out ... lol

You should all go to s Philly game --

Just don't wear your colors -- in fact, you better wear Philadelphia's colors or you'll never make it out of the stadium alive --

Don't let them see your license plates -- you won't make it to the stadium

The town will be shipping body parts home in a tiny plastic bag.

They'll kill you for shirt and sneakers

Read up on their victims ... May they RIP

ok... gotta go to bed.

And to all a good nite ~

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Cliff Lee - World Series Scenario The Phillies are down 3-1 in the series... Cliff Lee is awesome. So...they take a 6-1 lead after 3 innings. Why not take a risk...be smart...PULL Lee after 3 innings...put in Happ...and see if they can keep Lee fresh for a potential game 7? I know the Yankees are explosive...and I know that doing that would have a potential HUGE backlash if the Yankees came back and won... But assuming they take it to 3-2...if Pedro can pull it out in game 6...who's betting on the Yankees to beat Cliff Lee in game 7?
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11-02-2009, 08:51 PM	#2
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $6000295	C.C. Sabathia is a pretty good pitcher man.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm not saying he isn't... But I can't see any scenario where Cole Hamels beats C.C. in game 7...Hamels has looked like ballsack all year long.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	this is something only Tony LaRussa would try...no one else has the balls to do it.
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11-02-2009, 08:57 PM	#5
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Not 6-1. If it was 11-1. The Yankees can score 5 runs pretty quick. Posted via Mobile Device
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11-02-2009, 10:04 PM	#9
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	There was a similar debate in the 1998 Divison Series Indians-Red Sox. Indians were up 2-1. Pedro Martinez was available to pitch Game 4 on short rest. But Jimy Williams. Went with Pete Shourek at home figuring he had a better shot winning with Shourek at home Pedro winning the deciding game 5 at Cleveland than Pedro winning Game 4 and Brett Saberhagen or Tim Wakefield winning Game 5. Damn near worked too. Shourek pitched the game of his life and left leading 1-0 before Tom Gordon blew his first save of the year. Posted via Mobile Device
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11-03-2009, 01:01 AM	#14
kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	Happ should have started game 4 instead of Blanton. Happ is not a bullpen guy, he's a legit starter. He's just a rookie. He had a great season, possibly ROY
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11-03-2009, 01:03 AM	#15
Dylan The Lede Join Date: Aug 2007 Casino cash: $10016591	The Yankees are the underdogs... ya'll got figured out ... lol You should all go to s Philly game -- Just don't wear your colors -- in fact, you better wear Philadelphia's colors or you'll never make it out of the stadium alive -- Don't let them see your license plates -- you won't make it to the stadium The town will be shipping body parts home in a tiny plastic bag. They'll kill you for shirt and sneakers Read up on their victims ... May they RIP ok... gotta go to bed. And to all a good nite ~ __________________ Last edited by Dylan; 11-03-2009 at 01:27 AM..
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