Chiefs PFF Grades the Chiefs, Week 15 AKA OMG B-RICH

Hammock Parties · 12-20-2011, 03:50 PM

1. YES!! HE DID IT! BARRY RICHARDSON GOT A POSITIVE GRADE!!!! (2.0) It's his first grade in the green (above 1.0) since last season. Our entire line allowed ZERO pressures, ZERO sacks and ZERO hits. Ryan Lilja also played his best game of the year. Cue twilight zone music.

2. Kyle Orton got a 3.7. That's higher than any Cassel grade this year. Cassel had one game better than a 3.7 last season. It was also Orton's highest grade...ever.

3. Baldwin only played 21 snaps in this game. Odd.

4. Our DL was MIA this game, but the LBs showed up. Houston racked up 4 QB pressures. DJ picked up a 2.6 with most of it coming in pass coverage. Tamba raped with a 4.9 and 6 QB pressures. Allen Bailey picked up a 2.5 and has had 3 terrific games in 5 weeks.

5. Carr and Flowers were AMAZING this game. They were thrown at 9 times for a yardage total of 22 yards. On the downside, Arenas and Daniels got roasted for 176 yards, although much of this was in garbage-ish time.

6. A few interesting notes: Asamoah is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. LeRon Mclain is near the bottom in run blocking. Albert moves into 5th for pass blocking among left tackles, and the Chiefs vault up to 5th in pass blocking efficiency as a unit. Justin Houston has graded in the green 4 of the last 6 games.

I'll post the official recap when it's available.

htismaqe · 12-20-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

2. Kyle Orton got a 3.7. That's higher than any Cassel grade this year. Cassel had one game better than a 3.7 last season. It was also Orton's highest grade...ever.

OK, I know I've been on the "it's Cassel's fault much more than Haley's" lately but this right here stands out as evidence that, not only is Orton a big improvement over Cassel, but the coaching staff figured out how to use him better than anybody has to date.

Kudos to Muir, Zorn, and Crennel for putting together a near-perfect game.

aturnis · 12-20-2011, 04:14 PM

It's the extra time in the classroom that's helping the line. That's obvious to me. The OL looked like they had no idea what they were doing all season, could not pick up a blitz. Now, they go from terrible to decent/good a weeks time. Sounds like lack of time in the classroom was a BAD deal. Dammit Haley.

kc rush · 12-20-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

3. Baldwin only played 21 snaps in this game. Odd.

Not totally surprising since he did miss a practice (out sick). I'm sure he'll be more involved moving forward.

Fritz88 · 12-20-2011, 04:21 PM

Let's see what they do the next two games.

Earthling · 12-20-2011, 04:43 PM

Actually Orton took a HUGE hit on the first series.

Nightfyre · 12-20-2011, 04:44 PM

The brandons, Hali and Houston grades? They should be buoyed by an awesome execution of the gatorade shower!

kc rush · 12-20-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Earthling

Actually Orton took a HUGE hit on the first series.

I was wondering about that too. It may be that they are putting that one on Orton.

darkchief · 12-20-2011, 05:15 PM

Ya, Orton was looking at his finger after that hit. We almost had Stanzi time but Orton rubbed some dirt on it and all was good.

Okie_Apparition · 12-20-2011, 05:23 PM

A couple missed practice with flu like symptoms, or some such shit
Baldwin was probably dehydrated
Than explains why Barry was bearhugging, he thought they were the throne

Hammock Parties · 12-21-2011, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Earthling

Actually Orton took a HUGE hit on the first series.

Yes, but it was due to an unblocked blitzer.

Hammock Parties · 12-21-2011, 04:46 AM

Here's the official recap.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...hiefs-week-15/

Green Bay – Three Performances of Note

Picked a Bad Time for the Protection to Fall Apart

Green Bay’s offensive line has been a strength of the team for most of the season, but that is in danger of unraveling at the worst possible time. Marshall Newhouse (-5.1) and Derek Sherrod (-3.1) were the biggest problems on the line here. Sherrod only played 19 snaps after coming in for an injured Brian Bulaga (0.3) at right tackle, before being lost himself due to a broken right leg. The Chiefs were able to harass the Aaron Rodgers around the edge all day, forcing him to get rid of the ball a split second before he was ready on seemingly every throw. He also began to feel pressure that wasn’t necessarily there and was no longer trusting his protection fully, always a danger sign for quarterbacks. Newhouse only gave up one sack, but surrendered five more pressures and generally had his hands more than full with Tamba Hali all day.

Dropping the Ball

Part of what makes Aaron Rodgers 2011 so remarkable is the fact that no quarterback in the NFL has had more passes dropped than the 40 from the Green Bay receivers. The receiving corps chipped in with another five in this game, and another couple of passes that were fingertips away from being hauled in. The Packers get a lot of credit, rightfully, for the talent of their receivers, but they can’t just flash big plays. The Packer receivers need to eliminate the drops and make the simple plays that hit them in the hands. Jermichael Finley (-1.7) continued to struggle, with a pair of drops to lead the team. He was also overmatched as a run blocker, which thankfully he was only tasked with 13 times in the game.

Sitton Doesn’t Miss a Beat

Back in the lineup after injury, Josh Sitton (+3.4) looked like the All-Pro caliber player he was before he left. Sitton was perfect in pass protection, keeping Rodgers clean on all 44 of his pass blocking snaps. He also contributed a couple of positive plays in the run game. Sitton’s performance was so steady in this game that in his 62 snaps on offense he received just a single negative grade. This came with 6:57 to go in the first quarter when he allowed his defender to beat him to the outside and make a tackle for a short gain. Sitton and C Scott Wells (+1.1) now represent the clear strength of the Packers’ offensive line and while they may still be playing as well as ever, things are falling down around them

Kansas City – Three Things of Note

Kyle Orton Has Always Been Able to Do a Job

If you protect Kyle Orton (+3.7) he has always been able to play pretty well and do a job for somebody as a starter. He may never be able to put together the kind of season Aaron Rodgers is having, but he can win games and move the football. Orton looked poised all game long, and was able to sit back behind solid protection and find his open receiver at will. Were it not for some obvious chemistry issues on back shoulder throws with his receivers, in particular Jonathan Baldwin (0.0), then his numbers may have been even better. Teams will always look to cast Orton aside and look for an upgrade, but this type of game is the showcase for what he can do if a team builds around him.

Hello Hali

Tamba Hali (+4.9) has had a bit of a quiet season by his lofty standards so far but he exploded in this game and was a real thorn in the side of the Green Bay offense all day long. He recorded three sacks and six more pressures in the game, which might lead you to expect an even higher grade. However, not all of that pressure was very quick in coming, or came by beating offensive tackles. Two of his three sacks came as a result of movement from the quarterback or pressure flushing Rodgers into Hali’s path and two of his pressures came unblocked. Make no mistake though, this was a fine day at the office for the Chiefs linebacker, and whether the production came from hustle plays or not, he was getting home and doing damage

Lucky At the Back

The Chiefs were in truth a little lucky to escape some big plays on the back end. The Packers were inches at times from connecting on some big plays here. The play of Travis Daniels (-3.1) and Javier Arenas (-3.2) in particular, deserved to yield bigger results for the Pack. The pair combined to give up ten receptions and 176 yards through the air. It could have been even more if not for penalties on the offense nullifying plays. Between drops from the Green Bay receivers and some off-timing, the Chiefs were fortunate at times to ride their luck and avoid some significant bullets.

Game Notes

- Brandon Carr was thrown at six times but allowed just a single reception for eight yards. That translates to 1.3 yards per target.

- Every member of the Chiefs starting 11 on offense graded positively for the game, with all five linemen in the green.

- Aaron Rodgers’ completion percentage was 48.6%, taking away the five drops, two throw aways and a spike, he was accurate on 68.8% of his passes.

PFF Game Ball

Tamba Hali and Kyle Orton. This was a complete effort on both sides of the ball for Kansas City, so Orton and Hali share the spoils.

Deberg_1990 · 12-21-2011, 07:16 AM

Tambi Hali has had a quiet season?? Huh?

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-21-2011, 08:10 AM

Must...resign...Carr

Sofa King · 12-21-2011, 08:17 AM

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Must...resign...Carr

The sooner the better.

12-20-2011, 03:50 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $840478	PFF Grades the Chiefs, Week 15 AKA OMG B-RICH 1. YES!! HE DID IT! BARRY RICHARDSON GOT A POSITIVE GRADE!!!! (2.0) It's his first grade in the green (above 1.0) since last season. Our entire line allowed ZERO pressures, ZERO sacks and ZERO hits. Ryan Lilja also played his best game of the year. Cue twilight zone music. 2. Kyle Orton got a 3.7. That's higher than any Cassel grade this year. Cassel had one game better than a 3.7 last season. It was also Orton's highest grade...ever. 3. Baldwin only played 21 snaps in this game. Odd. 4. Our DL was MIA this game, but the LBs showed up. Houston racked up 4 QB pressures. DJ picked up a 2.6 with most of it coming in pass coverage. Tamba raped with a 4.9 and 6 QB pressures. Allen Bailey picked up a 2.5 and has had 3 terrific games in 5 weeks. 5. Carr and Flowers were AMAZING this game. They were thrown at 9 times for a yardage total of 22 yards. On the downside, Arenas and Daniels got roasted for 176 yards, although much of this was in garbage-ish time. 6. A few interesting notes: Asamoah is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. LeRon Mclain is near the bottom in run blocking. Albert moves into 5th for pass blocking among left tackles, and the Chiefs vault up to 5th in pass blocking efficiency as a unit. Justin Houston has graded in the green 4 of the last 6 games. I'll post the official recap when it's available.
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12-20-2011, 04:14 PM	#3
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	It's the extra time in the classroom that's helping the line. That's obvious to me. The OL looked like they had no idea what they were doing all season, could not pick up a blitz. Now, they go from terrible to decent/good a weeks time. Sounds like lack of time in the classroom was a BAD deal. Dammit Haley.
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Earthling MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $10008447	Actually Orton took a HUGE hit on the first series. __________________ AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT SO EASY ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR ONLY FRIEND TALKS SEES LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE YOU AND YOU DO JUST THE SAME AS HIM -Jiimi Hendrix
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Okie_Apparition Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: floatin cobwebs n the sky Casino cash: $10004900	A couple missed practice with flu like symptoms, or some such shit Baldwin was probably dehydrated Than explains why Barry was bearhugging, he thought they were the throne
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12-21-2011, 04:46 AM	#12
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $840478	Here's the official recap. http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...hiefs-week-15/ Green Bay – Three Performances of Note Picked a Bad Time for the Protection to Fall Apart Green Bay’s offensive line has been a strength of the team for most of the season, but that is in danger of unraveling at the worst possible time. Marshall Newhouse (-5.1) and Derek Sherrod (-3.1) were the biggest problems on the line here. Sherrod only played 19 snaps after coming in for an injured Brian Bulaga (0.3) at right tackle, before being lost himself due to a broken right leg. The Chiefs were able to harass the Aaron Rodgers around the edge all day, forcing him to get rid of the ball a split second before he was ready on seemingly every throw. He also began to feel pressure that wasn’t necessarily there and was no longer trusting his protection fully, always a danger sign for quarterbacks. Newhouse only gave up one sack, but surrendered five more pressures and generally had his hands more than full with Tamba Hali all day. Dropping the Ball Part of what makes Aaron Rodgers 2011 so remarkable is the fact that no quarterback in the NFL has had more passes dropped than the 40 from the Green Bay receivers. The receiving corps chipped in with another five in this game, and another couple of passes that were fingertips away from being hauled in. The Packers get a lot of credit, rightfully, for the talent of their receivers, but they can’t just flash big plays. The Packer receivers need to eliminate the drops and make the simple plays that hit them in the hands. Jermichael Finley (-1.7) continued to struggle, with a pair of drops to lead the team. He was also overmatched as a run blocker, which thankfully he was only tasked with 13 times in the game. Sitton Doesn’t Miss a Beat Back in the lineup after injury, Josh Sitton (+3.4) looked like the All-Pro caliber player he was before he left. Sitton was perfect in pass protection, keeping Rodgers clean on all 44 of his pass blocking snaps. He also contributed a couple of positive plays in the run game. Sitton’s performance was so steady in this game that in his 62 snaps on offense he received just a single negative grade. This came with 6:57 to go in the first quarter when he allowed his defender to beat him to the outside and make a tackle for a short gain. Sitton and C Scott Wells (+1.1) now represent the clear strength of the Packers’ offensive line and while they may still be playing as well as ever, things are falling down around them Kansas City – Three Things of Note Kyle Orton Has Always Been Able to Do a Job If you protect Kyle Orton (+3.7) he has always been able to play pretty well and do a job for somebody as a starter. He may never be able to put together the kind of season Aaron Rodgers is having, but he can win games and move the football. Orton looked poised all game long, and was able to sit back behind solid protection and find his open receiver at will. Were it not for some obvious chemistry issues on back shoulder throws with his receivers, in particular Jonathan Baldwin (0.0), then his numbers may have been even better. Teams will always look to cast Orton aside and look for an upgrade, but this type of game is the showcase for what he can do if a team builds around him. Hello Hali Tamba Hali (+4.9) has had a bit of a quiet season by his lofty standards so far but he exploded in this game and was a real thorn in the side of the Green Bay offense all day long. He recorded three sacks and six more pressures in the game, which might lead you to expect an even higher grade. However, not all of that pressure was very quick in coming, or came by beating offensive tackles. Two of his three sacks came as a result of movement from the quarterback or pressure flushing Rodgers into Hali’s path and two of his pressures came unblocked. Make no mistake though, this was a fine day at the office for the Chiefs linebacker, and whether the production came from hustle plays or not, he was getting home and doing damage Lucky At the Back The Chiefs were in truth a little lucky to escape some big plays on the back end. The Packers were inches at times from connecting on some big plays here. The play of Travis Daniels (-3.1) and Javier Arenas (-3.2) in particular, deserved to yield bigger results for the Pack. The pair combined to give up ten receptions and 176 yards through the air. It could have been even more if not for penalties on the offense nullifying plays. Between drops from the Green Bay receivers and some off-timing, the Chiefs were fortunate at times to ride their luck and avoid some significant bullets. Game Notes - Brandon Carr was thrown at six times but allowed just a single reception for eight yards. That translates to 1.3 yards per target. - Every member of the Chiefs starting 11 on offense graded positively for the game, with all five linemen in the green. - Aaron Rodgers’ completion percentage was 48.6%, taking away the five drops, two throw aways and a spike, he was accurate on 68.8% of his passes. PFF Game Ball Tamba Hali and Kyle Orton. This was a complete effort on both sides of the ball for Kansas City, so Orton and Hali share the spoils. __________________ Chiefs game films
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