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Old 12-30-2013, 07:47 PM   Topic Starter
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Did the Chiefs/Reid hold anything back the last time against Indy?
I've stated that I think Reid held back Charles and his best plays the last time we played Indy. Others have said that was their best effort, just a bad day. What say you?
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:50 PM   #2
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:51 PM   #3
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Collectively, their heads were not in the game. I don't know the reason for that.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:51 PM   #4
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:52 PM   #5
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The play calling lacked creativity for sure in that game. I felt we didn't show our entire hand but we also played pretty poorly. I really don't see the Colts defense being that good, I think it was one of our worst offensive games but that isn't solely because of the Colts defense.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:53 PM   #6
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I think the idea of a coach "holding back" may be the most absurd recurring topic on chiefsplanet.

While I'm sure the coaches have a handful of plays they hang on to, overall they are giving every effort to win.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:56 PM   #7
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I think the idea of a coach "holding back" may be the most absurd recurring topic on chiefsplanet.

While I'm sure the coaches have a handful of plays they hang on to, overall they are giving every effort to win.
I'm not saying that they laid down or took a dive in any way. But that doesn't mean that they have to give Charles 25-30 touches that game, call their best plays. How many touches did Charles have after the first series?

I would bet that Charles will have triple that # on Saturday. That's the Chiefs best effort. The best playcalling.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:00 PM   #8
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I'm not saying that they laid down or took a dive in any way. But that doesn't mean that they have to give Charles 25-30 touches that game, call their best plays. How many touches did Charles have after the first series?

I would bet that Charles will have triple that # on Saturday. That's the Chiefs best effort. The best playcalling.
Jamaal has has averaged 20.5 touches per game this season. Against Indy he had 18.
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Jamaal has has averaged 20.5 touches per game this season. Against Indy he had 18.
How many in the first drive? We finished that drive in what 2-3 minutes?

Lets say he has 4 touches in that first drive. Now you have 58 minutes of football and Charles touches it 14 times.

Again, I'm not saying that they tanked on purpose or they went into the game saying we are holding back these plays for the playoffs or anything like that.

But, I ALSO know that was some shitty play calling and Charles should have touched the ball more. Conspiracy? Planned? I don't think so but they definitely didn't empty the playbook of their best plays on that day.
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How many in the first drive? We finished that drive in what 2-3 minutes?

Lets say he has 4 touches in that first drive. Now you have 58 minutes of football and Charles touches it 14 times.

Again, I'm not saying that they tanked on purpose or they went into the game saying we are holding back these plays for the playoffs or anything like that.

But, I ALSO know that was some shitty play calling and Charles should have touched the ball more. Conspiracy? Planned? I don't think so but they definitely didn't empty the playbook of their best plays on that day.
You can slice and dice any set of numbers to get the answer you want. The "holding something back" idea just seems to be more wishful by fans trying to rationalize why we might get a different outcome this time.

It's just much more straight forward to think that we had a bad game that day and hope that we play better on Saturday.
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Did you guys still have a chance for the AFC West at the kickoff of that game?
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Did you guys still have a chance for the AFC West at the kickoff of that game?
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I feel very good heading into this game. We are rested and well prepared. I think we can make it to the AFC championship game at Denver this year.
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I feel very good heading into this game. We are rested and well prepared. I think we can make it to the AFC championship game at Denver this year.
We won't be in Denver if we are in the championship game.

We be in NE or Cincy, or KC.
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