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He's Mahomie!
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I hope I'm wrong but these guys never play the same after their guaranteed contracts kick in.
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If you can't find joy in being a Chiefs fan right now, you should probably just pack it in.
Maybe it all falls apart - stranger things have happened. That said, Andy Reid has created such a great atmosphere around this team that guys like Hali and DeVito are taking less to stay. You look at the relationship Houston has had with Berry and you feel like that's more than just 'teamspeak' - these guys really do enjoy playing here. This is a fun franchise to root for right now.
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I don't think I've ever been more excited for an upcoming season...sans when we had Montana.
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If you're going to call him a "complete linebacker", why don't they ever compare him to all the linebackers? That 1st/4th/4th thing is only true if you compare him to only 3-4 OLBs. Seriously, he was beaten in the coverage rating by Hali and Peppers. Those aren't exactly good coverage guys.
If you actually compare him to all the LBs, he is 1st in rushing, 32nd in coverage, and 19th against the run. Von, by the way, is 2nd/28th/2nd.
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You can tell these Bronco fans are mad bc all of them keep bringing up Von and whining.
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Which, by the way, says something when the stat that keeps coming up seems deliberately structured to not include Von. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Von beats Houston in 2 of the 3 categories.
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Setting aside for the moment the fact that PFF remains bullshit and it's laughable that that they try to sell it as 'objective' when it's literally just some guy like you or me watching game film and grading him, different positions are going to yield different grades due to different responsibilities. Hold your wads, fellas. We can all say who we think might be better, but in the end, this will be the first time they play similar roles. It'll be fascinating to see how it goes. Personally I think you're looking at 1A and 1B in some order - these guys are both amazing ballplayers. I think Houston's just a little more explosive but of course I'm going to think that. In either event, it's going to get settled on the field in just a few short months. Without Miller having played a single snap in a 3-4, it's just not an argument worth having right now.
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I'm pretty sure it's easier for LB's to play the run in a 4-3 than in a 3-4. Having an extra 300 lb DL helps take up blockers.
We've seen several instances where teams put their LT and a TE on Houston on a sweep....and they STILL have trouble blocking him.
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Ware : Hali Williams : Howard Knighton : Poe Wolfe : Bailey Miller : Houston
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Look at the positional comparison I just posted. Unless Ware put on a lot of weight, Houston and Miller have the same number of big guys in front of them.
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You guys ran a base 4-3 under Fox /Delrio, right? Not "essentially the same position" at all. |
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