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Old 10-30-2018, 09:28 PM  
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Here’s why a flawed Super Bowl contender stood pat at the trade deadline

https://sports.yahoo.com/heres-flawe...030330793.html

We don't have the $, period.

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Once the clock struck 3 p.m. Central time on Tuesday, marking the official end of the NFL’s trade deadline, the complaining and concern commenced in the city that’s home to the AFC’s best team.

And if you understand the history of the Kansas City Chiefs even a little bit, it’s easy to understand why. Chiefs fans are tortured, far more than you’d ever guess, and even in the midst of a red-hot (and unexpected) 7-1 start, many of them can’t help but worry about The Boogeyman.

And no, that’s not just a dated (but timely!) reference to the second-greatest horror movie of all-time, “Halloween.” (The greatest horror flick of all-time is “The Exorcist.” People were falling out in theaters, for goodness sake. I will not argue about this.) To Chiefs fans, the possibility of postseason heartbreak is every bit as scary as the 1978 classic, thanks to past teams that have gotten their hopes up in the regular season, only to rip their guts out in the postseason with inexplicable precision straight out of Michael Myers’ “How to Kill Someone 50 Times More Brutally Than Necessary” handbook.

So yeah, let’s just say that when you see the Chiefs have the league’s 31st-ranked defense — whose rating on the “fun to watch” scale is as low as their star-studded offense’s rating is high — it’s not exactly hard to figure out what’s probably going to come back to bite them in the postseason.

Yet, even knowing that, the Chiefs failed to make a move to boost a beleaguered secondary during the most active trade deadline in years. A bunch of players you’ve heard of were dealt, including receiver Golden Tate, receiver Demaryius Thomas, defensive end Dante Fowler and safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, with the latter in particular being someone many Chiefs fans hoped their team would key in on, along with cornerback Janoris Jenkins and safety Landon Collins of the New York Giants and Arizona Cardinals cornerback Patrick Peterson, none of whom were moved.

But the Chiefs held firm, and while it may still come back to bite them in a few months, it wasn’t for a lack of effort. The Chiefs expressed interest in Collins, but the Giants weren’t interested in trading him, Yahoo Sports has learned. Same goes for Peterson, who the Cardinals also weren’t open to trading. A source with knowledge of the club’s thinking also told Yahoo Sports that the Chiefs were not interested in Jenkins, an expensive, 30-year-old corner with uneven tape this season.

The club also monitored the availability of Clinton-Dix, a smooth 25-year-old safety who is set to be a free agent in May, but decided internally it wouldn’t surrender the third-round pick needed to secure his services from the Green Bay Packers. (Washington wound up trading a fourth for him). There were several reasons for that.

For one, Clinton-Dix would have been a tight fit under the cap this year, and the Chiefs — who will need to pay young building blocks like Tyreek Hill and Chris Jones in the near future — knew he’d be hard to re-sign. Especially when you consider the amount of salary and equity they’ve already invested in the safety position, with Eric Berry and Daniel Sorensen combining to take up $18.3 million in cap space, and the fact they just invested a 2018 fourth-rounder in Armani Watts and a 2020 seventh for Jordan Lucas.

Add all that together, and they just couldn’t justify using a premium, top-100 asset on a rental player they liked but didn’t necessarily see as a game-changer.

And that, again, is where the real shame of all this lies. The Chiefs — as Yahoo Sports first reported — were confident they would get a deal done for a player who fits that mold in Seattle free safety Earl Thomas, at least prior to his season-ending leg injury in late September. While Clinton-Dix and Thomas are both single-high safeties, Thomas’ elite range, motor, ball skills and tackling ferocity all stood out, even at age 29, making him the type of addition who could take this defense to another level.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:37 PM   #2
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:37 PM   #3
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We don’t have money, but were going to trade for and pay Earl Thomas’ salary?
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:38 PM   #4
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We don’t have money, but were going to trade for and pay Earl Thomas’ salary?
Eric Berry’s contract is a boat anchor.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:38 PM   #5
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We don’t have money, but were going to trade for and pay Earl Thomas’ salary?
He was making minimum wage i think, 7.75 an hour if i'm not mistaken.
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We don’t have money, but were going to trade for and pay Earl Thomas’ salary?
He's older and likely cheaper.
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We don’t have money, but were going to trade for and pay Earl Thomas’ salary?
“They weren’t interested in a player that wasn’t a game changer”

Dix and Jenkins aren’t game changers like Earl Thomas
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We don’t have money, but were going to trade for and pay Earl Thomas’ salary?
Sounds like they were okay with trading for a generational talent in Earl Thomas even if it meant draft picks and extending him, but they weren’t okay with giving up a draft pick for an occasional fringe-Pro Bowl safety that they didn’t want to pay long-term.

Long story short, it would’ve been worth it for Thomas and not for Clinton-Dix.

Doesn’t help us this year, but drafting at least one safety with our early picks is what Veach feels is the better long-term move.
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Sounds like they were okay with trading for a generational talent in Earl Thomas even if it meant draft picks and extending him, but they weren’t okay with giving up a draft pick for an occasional fringe-Pro Bowl safety that they didn’t want to pay long-term.

Long story short, it would’ve been worth it for Thomas and not for Clinton-Dix.

Doesn’t help us this year, but drafting at least one safety with our early picks is what Veach feels is the better long-term move.
You missed one key piece:

They felt that Thomas was worth it regardless of the situation. They didn’t want to overpay Clinton-Dix because they already have too much invested in Berry and Sorensen.

Thomas would have been here regardless. Clinton-Dix is not here BECAUSE of Berry and Sorenson. Like I said before, it’s time for Berry to play. Now.
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we can get cheaper people in the draft and who knows, we might win it all this year anyway

Eric Berry has a large chunk of the cap, contracts should never be structured where the team is held hostage, but kudos to berrys agent.
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And for the record, both Berry and Sorensen are under contract. Anybody that thinks they’re drafting a safety high is kidding themselves. The safeties on this team now (including Watts) ARE the future.
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