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Old 04-21-2020, 09:20 PM  
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LNBS: Did Reid force Dorsey out because he didn’t want to lose Veach
I was explaining to a buddy how Veach was the guy that found Mahomes, and it got me thinking.

Dorsey was fired after Ballard was hired by the Colts, and the timing was weird. I don’t doubt that Dorsey’s issues were part of the reason as well, but something tells me Reid was scared to lose a guy who he knew had a special eye for talent and found his QB.
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:24 PM   #2
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:27 PM   #3
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:27 PM   #4
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I can only imagine the contract that Dee Ford would’ve gotten had we not made that change
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:29 PM   #5
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I can only imagine the contract that Dee Ford would’ve gotten had we not made that change
Yikes.

I'm still happy to be done with all those older players. It's nice having much younger team that's still actually good on top of it.
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:33 PM   #6
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I agree, I don't think Clark/Reid wanted to lose him. I think they saw someone who could be the GM for the next 20 years.
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:35 PM   #7
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I don't think Dorsey's persona fit with Clark.

I also think they knew losing Chris Ballard would suck, so they didn't want to lose Veach next.
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:43 PM   #8
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Nah. There was some pretty clear awkwardness and tension there between Dorsey and Clark. Apparent on the night we drafted Mahomes.

Edit: wasn't it something to do with Berry and his contract?
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:48 PM   #9
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Nah. There was some pretty clear awkwardness and tension there between Dorsey and Clark. Apparent on the night we drafted Mahomes.

Edit: wasn't it something to do with Berry and his contract?
That’s all speculation IIRC, no different from this.

I said that issues with Dorsey were also probably part of the decision as well, but something just tells me Reid knew what he had in Veach and refused to lose him too. It’s not a coincidence that he got the job after and he was being talked about for a GM job that offseason (Buffalo).
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:50 PM   #10
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Essentially, Dorsey fired himself.

He could not report properly and he could not manage staff properly. Therefore, he and Clark were incompatible. Dorsey was given an opportunity to course-correct and could not do it.

Personally, I think Dorsey was elevated well beyond his competency (Peter Principle) and is unfit for a managerial or leadership position.

He's a scout. Nothing more.

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Old 04-21-2020, 09:52 PM   #11
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No. It took 2 months to hire a new GM after Dorsey got fired. Veach was right there, ready and waiting. If this factored into even 20% of the decision to fire Dorsey, then why did Clark wait 2 months?

The timing of Dorsey's firing was directly after Eric Berry getting his panties in a bunch over his contract and Dorsey cutting Maclin abruptly. He clearly pissed off Clark. And based on the stories that came out of Cleveland, it's likely he pissed them off, too, even if they're just a bunch of simpletons.

Dorsey is an asshole who doesn't play nice with others. That's the best explanation for why he got fired.
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Dorsey was ****ing terrible with the cap too. Hell we have basically the same squad as last year and are under the salary cap. He can get Jones and Mahomes extended somehow without losing critical pieces I’ll let Veach blow me as much as he wants
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Any hope of this being true went out the window when Dorsey got his ass run outta Cleveland too.

The stories there are hilarious. Dude can scout players, but outside of that is an asshat.
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