STM questions

[cmh6476]

If we're going to be good for awhile, it's making me ponder pulling the trigger. Saturday was my first game this year but I'm usually good for 2 or 3 games a year, including a playoff game.

So I call and am told last year uppers started at $1,300 per seat and lowers $3,000 per and the $500 deposit holds your spot. So for first year ticket holder you're talking $333.33 per game at 9 games, one of which is a pre-season game for lower lever? It's that accurate? Or did we have more games last year and this year it could be cheaper?

What else should someone considering it know? Didn't see a thread on this in search, but I'm sure there is one out there so I apologize if this info is posted somewhere.

[Peter Gibbons]

I cannot answer any of these STM questions, but I am am an avid BITOG forum reader and could likely answer any STP questions you may have. Fire away.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

We have the same games each year. 1 preseason game and 9 home games, or 2 preseason game and 8 home games, with the new 17 game season. This year may be cheaper as one of our home games will be internationally, but not sure if they adjust and add a preseason due to this. You also have parking which is $35 a game I believe. It's a pretty good deal compared to other stadiums as most have seat licensing on top of the tix.

[cmh6476]

Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons

I cannot answer any of these STM questions, but I am am an avid BITOG forum reader and could likely answer any STP questions you may have. Fire away.

What's s good way to know if the shop really did change the oil in your vehicle?

[cmh6476]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

We have the same games each year. 1 preseason game and 9 home games, or 2 preseason game and 8 home games, with the new 17 game season. This year may be cheaper as one of our home games will be internationally, but not sure if they adjust and add a preseason due to this. You also have parking which is $35 a game I believe. It's a pretty good deal compared to other stadiums as most have seat licensing on top of the tix.

I assume discounts vary based on how long you've had your tickets. So going in upper first year, and then taking advantage of lower in future years might not be a bad idea?

[Peter Gibbons]

Originally Posted by cmh6476

What's s good way to know if the shop really did change the oil in your vehicle?

Remove the engine dipstick and check the taste of the oil before and after the visit. Lesser men will simply look at the color of the oil on a paper towel. However, Chiefsplanet members realize that small bits of oil ingestion is partially what makes all of our penises grow nine inches or longer.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by cmh6476

I assume discounts vary based on how long you've had your tickets. So going in upper first year, and then taking advantage of lower in future years might not be a bad idea?

I don't think there is any discount and my tickets have went up slightly each year. I am in the 3rd row of the upper and prefer this to many lowers unless you are in between the 20's at least 10 rows up. I just like to watch the entire field and that is easy in the upper, first 10 rows or so. I believe mine were $1350 each, plus parking.

[steve_minor]

I am a first time season ticket holder this year. I live in MN, and cannot make every game. You can easily sell parking pass each game you don't attend. You can also easily sell home games, besides the preseason even when marked down to almost nothing. You can sell some premium games for premium resale prices, but the best part is attending the premium games and post season.

Don't expect to save any money as you can likely find tickets to 3 regular season games for less than your cost as a STH.

I don't regret it and plan to buy season tickets again next year. The app has perks you can build up. You get a STH kickoff tailgate party once a year. You get to know the people around you and usually it is fun to make memories together through out the season. The intangibles if money is not super tight is worth it.

The other big perk is decent priced playoff tickets. My tickets are $190 after taxes and fees per seat for AFC Championship. Resale in my section is around $500 per seat after fees. I was tired of wanting to attend playoffs and having to spend $800-$1200 for 2 tickets when that is almost half the cost of season tickets.

Hope my experience is helpful!!!

[cmh6476]

Originally Posted by steve_minor

I am a first time season ticket holder this year. I live in MN, and cannot make every game. You can easily sell parking pass each game you don't attend. You can also easily sell home games, besides the preseason even when marked down to almost nothing. You can sell some premium games for premium resale prices, but the best part is attending the premium games and post season.

Don't expect to save any money as you can likely find tickets to 3 regular season games for less than your cost as a STH.

I don't regret it and plan to buy season tickets again next year. The app has perks you can build up. You get a STH kickoff tailgate party once a year. You get to know the people around you and usually it is fun to make memories together through out the season. The intangibles if money is not super tight is worth it.

The other big perk is decent priced playoff tickets. My tickets are $190 after taxes and fees per seat for AFC Championship. Resale in my section is around $500 per seat after fees. I was tired of wanting to attend playoffs and having to spend $800-$1200 for 2 tickets when that is almost half the cost of season tickets.

Hope my experience is helpful!!!

Very much so, thanks

[cmh6476]

It sounds like from what you guys are telling me, all these people complaining about high ticket prices don't have much to complain about because you've all made a decent investment in the team.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by cmh6476

It sounds like from what you guys are telling me, all these people complaining about high ticket prices don't have much to complain about because you've all made a diggings investment in the team.

We all have disposable income that we spend on things. Some choose to prioritize the Chiefs, if this disposable income is limited, over vacations, new cars, eating out, movies etc. Those who prioritize other things think the prices are overpriced, even though we are one of the least expensive venues in the NFL.

[decibelup]

if you have disposable income, enjoy sitting in the same seats near the same people, plan to attend most games, and value some of the perks associated with being a season ticket holder (first dibs on playoffs, special events), then i think it makes sense. the fact that the chiefs are really good - and are likely to be a contender for the foreseeable future - also helps reduce the downside risk.

but in almost all cases - all teams, all sports - being a season ticket holder is a bad investment.

reasons:

1. you pay for a preseason game(s). enough said.

2. it's hard to resell and recover money when you can't attend. the re-sale fees are unreal high these days on ticketmaster and stubhub (often 15-20%).

3. the value of each home game is very opponent driven. next year's home schedule looks pretty great: eagles, bengals, bills, dolphins (tyreek return), lions, bears, afc west. the first four on that list will be high demand games. but then there's the years where you get an afc south or nfc south heavy schedule, and that can be miserable. home games vs jags, titans, texans, panthers, falcons will always do worse than games vs packers, cowboys, steelers, etc.

4. awful weather/holiday games almost always sell for less than face. the chiefs had home games this year on christmas eve and new year's day. neither were marquee games (seahawks, broncos). there were extreme bargains all over the stadium for both games, including in premium locations. even in the playoffs, the steelers game in 2016 (before the time change) and the titans game in 2017 were extremely cheap, with many tickets selling for less than $65. many fans are willing to stay home rather than freeze.

5. limits your flexibility. if you have friends in town or family and would like to take them to a game, but only have one extra season ticket, odds are good you're headed to the re-sale market. then you have to sell your seats, and likely won't recover the value of them.

6. if the team is awful, demand goes way down. imagine being a chiefs season ticket holder in 2011 and 2012. (as noted above, this is less of an issue in the mahomes/andy era.)

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by decibelup

if you have disposable income, enjoy sitting in the same seats near the same people, plan to attend most games, and value some of the perks associated with being a season ticket holder (first dibs on playoffs, special events), then i think it makes sense. the fact that the chiefs are really good - and are likely to be a contender for the foreseeable future - also helps reduce the downside risk.

but in almost all cases - all teams, all sports - being a season ticket holder is a bad investment.

reasons:

1. you pay for a preseason game(s). enough said.

2. it's hard to resell and recover money when you can't attend. the re-sale fees are unreal high these days on ticketmaster and stubhub (often 15-20%).

3. the value of each home game is very opponent driven. next year's home schedule looks pretty great: eagles, bengals, bills, dolphins (tyreek return), lions, bears, afc west. the first four on that list will be high demand games. but then there's the years where you get an afc south or nfc south heavy schedule, and that can be miserable. home games vs jags, titans, texans, panthers, falcons will always do worse than games vs packers, cowboys, steelers, etc.

4. awful weather/holiday games almost always sell for less than face. the chiefs had home games this year on christmas eve and new year's day. neither were marquee games (seahawks, broncos). there were extreme bargains all over the stadium for both games, including in premium locations. even in the playoffs, the steelers game in 2016 (before the time change) and the titans game in 2017 were extremely cheap, with many tickets selling for less than $65. many fans are willing to stay home rather than freeze.

5. limits your flexibility. if you have friends in town or family and would like to take them to a game, but only have one extra season ticket, odds are good you're headed to the re-sale market. then you have to sell your seats, and likely won't recover the value of them.

6. if the team is awful, demand goes way down. imagine being a chiefs season ticket holder in 2011 and 2012. (as noted above, this is less of an issue in the mahomes/andy era.)

so much wrong in this post. As long as Patrick is our QB and he is healthy and playing, your post is meaningless. You need to make a commitment to go to most games. I am going to my 5th AFC Championship game. Nothing like being there in person. The money you save on playoff tickets is worth it. I could sell my tickets this week for $800 a peice, but wouldn't think of it. If you don't think we will be in the playoff hunt in the future, then maybe ST aren't the answer. I could easily sell my tickets for for most games for more as much or more than I paid with Patrick as our QB, but that shouldn't be your objective. The objective is enjoy the Chiefs, and the friends you establish around your seats. If every week you want to buy cheap tickets online, you will go to all of the bad games, but you won't be able to afford to go to the great ones.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by decibelup

if you have disposable income, enjoy sitting in the same seats near the same people, plan to attend most games, and value some of the perks associated with being a season ticket holder (first dibs on playoffs, special events), then i think it makes sense. the fact that the chiefs are really good - and are likely to be a contender for the foreseeable future - also helps reduce the downside risk.

but in almost all cases - all teams, all sports - being a season ticket holder is a bad investment.

reasons:

1. you pay for a preseason game(s). enough said.

2. it's hard to resell and recover money when you can't attend. the re-sale fees are unreal high these days on ticketmaster and stubhub (often 15-20%).

3. the value of each home game is very opponent driven. next year's home schedule looks pretty great: eagles, bengals, bills, dolphins (tyreek return), lions, bears, afc west. the first four on that list will be high demand games. but then there's the years where you get an afc south or nfc south heavy schedule, and that can be miserable. home games vs jags, titans, texans, panthers, falcons will always do worse than games vs packers, cowboys, steelers, etc.

4. awful weather/holiday games almost always sell for less than face. the chiefs had home games this year on christmas eve and new year's day. neither were marquee games (seahawks, broncos). there were extreme bargains all over the stadium for both games, including in premium locations. even in the playoffs, the steelers game in 2016 (before the time change) and the titans game in 2017 were extremely cheap, with many tickets selling for less than $65. many fans are willing to stay home rather than freeze.

5. limits your flexibility. if you have friends in town or family and would like to take them to a game, but only have one extra season ticket, odds are good you're headed to the re-sale market. then you have to sell your seats, and likely won't recover the value of them.

6. if the team is awful, demand goes way down. imagine being a chiefs season ticket holder in 2011 and 2012. (as noted above, this is less of an issue in the mahomes/andy era.)

God damn you came out of nowhere to be the biggest butt ****ing moron on this forum

[decibelup]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

so much wrong in this post. As long as Patrick is our QB and he is healthy and playing, your post is meaningless. You need to make a commitment to go to most games. I am going to my 5th AFC Championship game. Nothing like being there in person. The money you save on playoff tickets is worth it. I could sell my tickets this week for $800 a peice, but wouldn't think of it. If you don't think we will be in the playoff hunt in the future, then maybe ST aren't the answer. I could easily sell my tickets for for most games for more as much or more than I paid with Patrick as our QB, but that shouldn't be your objective. The objective is enjoy the Chiefs, and the friends you establish around your seats. If every week you want to buy cheap tickets online, you will go to all of the bad games, but you won't be able to afford to go to the great ones.

you could literally sit midfield on saturday vs jags, lower level, for about $325/seat (after fees). some dude was selling end zone seats (end zone seats!) for more than that on this forum.

tell me what the face value was on those seats again, i'll hang up and listen.