Possibility of trading L’Jarius Sneed

RunKC · 02-27-2023, 01:52 PM

As we know, crow successfully called the Tyreek trade last year before it happened with a good thread discussion.

This year I think our most likely trade piece could be L’Jarius Sneed. To preface this, I would like to keep him at a fair deal. However, bidness is bidness sometimes. Let’s examine the cases.

Case for trading:

1. He could ask for too much. He has never made the pro bowl or all pro team, so if he asks for $17+ million, I could see a trade happening.

2. This staff is the best in the NFL in finding and squeezing out the best from corners. Breeland, Ward, Fuller, Fenton, Sneed and the rookies from this year. All of them were excellent here and didn’t take long for the young guys to develop.
3. We have at least 9 draft picks. Maybe 10-11. We have more than enough ammo to draft one, or trade up for one if we so choose. We have drafted a corner every year under Spags but one, and that year was when we had 6 draft picks due to trading for Orlando Brown Jr.
4. The 3 corners did well this year. That’s a big feather in the cap having them all cheap for 3 more years. McDuffie can do a lot of what Sneed does (outside, inside, blitz). The cup would not be bare. And again…lot of draft capital.
5. The money freed up from Sneed could be used to keep someone else (Willie Gay?) or get a FA.

The case against:
1. He takes a team friendly contract.
2. We can’t get anything more than a 3rd rd pick for him in a trade.

What do you all think? If you’re Veach what’s your bottom line for money and trade compensation received?

O.city · 02-27-2023, 02:00 PM

Depends what you can get for him I supposed. Unless it's a top 60ish pick, I'd probably keep him and take my comp pick.

Toad · 02-27-2023, 02:09 PM

Ideally, they extend this off season before he makes all pro (and he just might).

Dante84 · 02-27-2023, 02:24 PM

Its weird to say but I almost love him more for his open field tackling than his coverage ability.

**Bowser** · 02-27-2023, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Its weird to say but I almost love him more for his open field tackling than his coverage ability.

He tackles like a linebacker. It looked like he was going to tear Brday's head off when he sacked him this past season (shocked it wasn't called a roughing penalty, tbh).

**Bowser** · 02-27-2023, 02:35 PM

mkp785 · 02-27-2023, 02:49 PM

Our most likely trade piece.....

Did we sign Orlando Brown Jr to a record setting deal or did he and his agent say they wanna take a paycut to stay here and I missed it....?

OBJ was and still is our best trade piece for this season. He has a ton of trade value and him and the Chiefs already butted heads over his deal last year....and now he won a Super Bowl. His price isn't going down from a year ago.

As to the question, I'd re-sign Snead. We need a vet back there with all of our kids and he's likely the leader. Also it's a good thing to cover our home grown talents that have out performed their deals.

ntexascardfan · 02-27-2023, 03:05 PM

I don't mind having one high paid guy at every level of the defense.

Jones, Bolton, Sneed....then fill in around those guys with young talented we drafted + veterans looking to get their hands on a ring.

kccrow · 02-27-2023, 03:37 PM

He's the new Mathieu for this defense and is just headed to his prime. I think he's an easy keep and probably will be 3 for 13 to 15 per. I'd have zero quarrels with that. Retaining a guy like Willie Gay is far less important than Sneed. He's not going to get you a haul of picks to retool the roster as Hill did.

The head-exploding trade option is Chris Jones and he would likely get you a couple of picks to retool with. I'm not championing that move like I did Hill, but I think its out there. It is difficult to maintain 30+M contracts when you are paying a QB top dollar, but Chris is the one player its pretty well worth it.

The most likely is Orlando Brown. I just don't think Veach places the same value on his ability as Brown does. He's going to draw a line in the sand again and I just don't think they'll meet at it.

ToxSocks · 02-27-2023, 03:39 PM

For all the guys you listed who ended up working out, there's another list of guys we never got shit out of. So lets not just take DB development for granted quite yet, like we can just grow the mofo's on trees.

Direckshun · 02-27-2023, 03:41 PM

I'd be open to eventually trading boundary corners in Spags' D, or letting them walk in free agency like Ward.

But the defense we're running cannot work without Sneed. This isn't a hot take, and I'm not bashing the OP because I know what he's saying. But Sneed is a must re-sign.

He's also worth a lot more to us than he can legitimately bargain for. He's never made a Pro Bowl, he's never made an All Pro team. But he's good enough for either of those, and his versatility literally cannot be replaced.

I'd pay $16m/year for him, believe it or not. But he's likely to only command, like, $11m/year.

mkp785 · 02-27-2023, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'd be open to eventually trading boundary corners in Spags' D, or letting them walk in free agency like Ward.

But the defense we're running cannot work without Sneed. This isn't a hot take, and I'm not bashing the OP because I know what he's saying. But Sneed is a must re-sign.

He's also worth a lot more to us than he can legitimately bargain for. He's never made a Pro Bowl, he's never made an All Pro team. But he's good enough for either of those, and his versatility literally cannot be replaced.

I'd pay $16m/year for him, believe it or not. But he's likely to only command, like, $11m/year.

I hope it'll be closer to a 14 or so. I get your point though. I'd offer a 4/55 with 35~ of that guaranteed as soon as I could. If he makes all pro next year which is a legit possibility, then his price just skyrocketed. Then we're looking at Marlon Humphrey money.

He's young enough and a leader while being home-grown. Do it now and get it done before the cost grows.

RunKC · 02-27-2023, 11:20 PM

Just a friendly reminder that Sneed got knocked out of the Bengals game on one of the first few plays of the game and the 3 rookie corners (and Cook) did a fantastic job against one of the best receiver corps in the league.

Watson has really taken to the Ward boundary corner, McDuffie can play Sneed’s position at a solid level and Williams is a nice #3.

But again it depends on the contract and possible return.

**ptlyon** · 02-28-2023, 12:54 AM

WTF GIF

Couch-Potato · 02-28-2023, 02:46 PM

What type of trade comp do you guys think we'd get for Sneed?

I'd hate to see him go, but we have had a lot of luck finding late round DBs recently.

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	I'd be open to eventually trading boundary corners in Spags' D, or letting them walk in free agency like Ward. But the defense we're running cannot work without Sneed. This isn't a hot take, and I'm not bashing the OP because I know what he's saying. But Sneed is a must re-sign. He's also worth a lot more to us than he can legitimately bargain for. He's never made a Pro Bowl, he's never made an All Pro team. But he's good enough for either of those, and his versatility literally cannot be replaced. I'd pay $16m/year for him, believe it or not. But he's likely to only command, like, $11m/year.
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