Offsides reality

[tredadda]

Looking at the offsides on Toney and the “Let them play” mentality a few things stick out.

1. He was offsides and like it or not, that is inexcusable on his part. Toney should never line up offsides…….ever. That’s a Pee Wee league type of mistake. He didn’t just start playing football this year. Pre snap penalties are the worst because they are completely preventable. He should have never left it up to a ref to decide one way or another, especially with the quality of reffing league wide lately.

2. I get the “Let them play” mindset and not letting a questionable call impact a game. But it can’t be “Let them play” when convenient and when not calls should be made. Look at the SB when KC benefited from a penalty that essentially sealed the game. Had the refs swallowed the whistle like what was wanted today KC might well have lost the SB. We benefited from that penalty. But today we want to yell at the clouds because it was called. Both times the penalty was called, just this time it went against KC.

3. Even after the penalty they still had time to pick up the yards and score a TD and is systemic of how the offense has played for large portions of the year. This team has a championship caliber defense, but the offense is not what we all expect. That might mean an early exit this year. Simply put if the offense hasn’t figured it out by now I question whether they will.

It is what it is.

[Molitoth]

hmmmmm... you pretty much nailed it.

Nice job.

[Bearcat]

Yep. I get Reid and Mahomes' frustration in general (the DPI last week, the 3 or 4 or 10 challenges this week, and so on), but that one particular call is a strange hill to die on, IMO. And I'm sure the previous calls and even last week, and the frustrations of the offense in general built up to what we saw on the sidelines.

[Rainbarrel]

It gives Buffalo the distraction to extend McDermott

[Molitoth]

Mahomes' frustrations has reached the boiling point.

[Wallcrawler]

Mcderpitt was so relieved when the ball hit the ground on 4th down.

It's a crime that he coached that final series so poorly on offense and gets to sneak out with a win.

[FloridaMan88]

Toney should have lined up onsides.

Hopefully Andy is properly holding him accountable behind closed doors, if he would rather make it a refs issue to the media.

[LoneWolf]

Being 6” offside has literally no effect on the play which is why it is almost never called. The hold on Juju in the Super Bowl had an impact on what the play could be. It’s a stupid comparison. Toney also checked with the referee before the snap. KC was robbed of a TD by Cheffer’s crew. Not sure they win the game because Buffalo would have had a shot to go down and win it, but the call was bullshit.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Being 6” offside has literally no effect on the play which is why it is almost never called. The hold on Juju in the Super Bowl had an impact on what the play could be. It’s a stupid comparison. Toney also checked with the referee before the snap. KC was robbed of a TD by Cheffer’s crew. Not sure they win the game because Buffalo would have had a shot to go down and win it, but the call was bullshit.

He was CLEARLY offsides….I mean clearly…wasn’t a bullshit call.

Just do something that’s the most elementary of things to do and it doesn’t get called, period.

[louie aguiar]

The offense had the ball twice with opportunities to win the game in the fourth quarter and failed each time. This isn’t on the refs.

[Chiefspants]

It was a penalty.

If Toney’s not getting held accountable in the locker room it says a lot about the issues on the field this year imo.

I get Patrick’s frustration only if Toney checked and got an affirmation from the ref pre snap.

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

It was a penalty.

If Toney’s not getting held accountable in the locker room it says a lot about the issues on the field this year imo.

I get Patrick’s frustration only if Toney checked and got an affirmation from the ref pre snap.

All the reports are that he didn’t check

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Being 6” offside has literally no effect on the play which is why it is almost never called. The hold on Juju in the Super Bowl had an impact on what the play could be. It’s a stupid comparison. Toney also checked with the referee before the snap. KC was robbed of a TD by Cheffer’s crew. Not sure they win the game because Buffalo would have had a shot to go down and win it, but the call was bullshit.

People keep saying he checked… have we seen any evidence of such? And it’s his fault either way he shouldn’t have to rely on the line judge to make sure he isn’t offside.

[Iczer]

Can someone help me out. Could Humphrey possibly made him offsides? I wonder if he grabbed the ball when he lined up and possibly moved it back at all?

I’ll be interested to see Replay from the all-22 and if he checked with the ref

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

People keep saying he checked… have we seen any evidence of such? And it’s his fault either way he shouldn’t have to rely on the line judge to make sure he isn’t offside.

I was taught that you TELL the ref whether you are on the LOS or not so he can ensure there is at least 7 men on the LoS. IF the ref tells you that you need to scoot up or back, that's just a benefit of him being nice... as it's not a mandatory job of his to ensure you do your job correctly.