Whitlock: New field could make us Super...

DaWolf · 02-08-2005, 03:40 AM

New field could make us Super

JASON WHITLOCK

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — We could be host to a Super Bowl. We really could.

If there's one thing I learned while suffering through a Super Bowl week in Jacksonville, it's that Kansas City has enough to entice NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue to bring sports' biggest showcase to our town.

All we need is a new stadium with a retractable roof and a few more hotels. We already have everything else, including the people with the necessary clout to broker such a deal.

Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver pretty much put the deal together that brought Super Bowl XXXIX to Jacksonville. Wayne Weaver is no Lamar Hunt.

If the Hunt family told Tagliabue that the promise of a Super Bowl would make it easier for Kansas Citians to build the Chiefs a new football palace, the commish would guarantee us a Super Bowl within the next 15 years. During his state-of-the-league address on Friday, Tagliabue mentioned Kansas City as a smaller market city that could play host to a future Super Bowl.

He obviously doesn't think Arrowhead Stadium could handle the game. Tagliabue has a great deal of respect for Kansas City as an important NFL market. The league is well-aware of KC's season-ticket base and football passion. It's important to the league that the NFL remains strong in Kansas City.

Tagliabue doesn't want to see an ugly, drawn-out fight for a new football stadium here. No one associated with the NFL wants to make any threats about the Chiefs possibly moving to Los Angeles. If a Super Bowl would make building a $500 million stadium easier on KC taxpayers, then I'm sure Tagliabue would be willing to do whatever he could to make it happen.

And with a little help from the Hunt family, Kansas City could get a small trinket of appreciation — a Super Bowl — from the league for building a new stadium.

Given Hunt's history and ties to the NFL, given the fact that he came up with the name “Super Bowl,” if Lamar Hunt asked the league to play a Super Bowl in his favorite NFL city, the league would bend over backward to do so. Super Bowl week in KC could be a celebration of Hunt's football legacy.

The reality is the league owes the Hunt family a Super Bowl. Wayne Weaver can get a Super Bowl, but Lamar Hunt can't? I don't think so. There's a reason the AFC championship trophy is named after Lamar Hunt. He's one of the 20 most influential and important people in the history of the league.

After Bistate II failed, it became obvious that we are going to be asked to build the Chiefs a new stadium. You can whine about the unfairness of it all. You can complain that the billionaire owners should finance their own playpens. And there's no question that the Hunts should ante up, but the reality is that KC taxpayers will have to finance a significant portion of a new stadium.

So let's get something a little extra out of it. Let's get a Super Bowl.

We can do it. Besides Florida weather, Jacksonville doesn't have one thing on Kansas City. And for much of Super Bowl week, the weather in Kansas City was actually better than the cold, rainy weather in Jacksonville.

Jacksonville had to have cruise ships dock near downtown just so it would have enough hotel accommodations for the week. Major, nighttime parties were held underneath tents in parks. Hooters was a destination spot. Out behind the media hotel, The Adams Mark, it looked as if Jacksonville was holding a weeklong county fair. Jacksonville is small time.

Right now, with The Plaza, River Market, Westport, 18th and Vine, the casinos and Gates Bar-B-Q, we have far more to offer than Jacksonville. By the time we add a new downtown arena and KC Live district, we'll feel like Las Vegas compared with Jacksonville.

And you know what? People still had a good time in Jacksonville. The celebrities still showed up and held parties. Snoop Dogg, John Travolta, Will Smith and all the other beautiful people attended the game. They'll all head up to icy and crime-ridden Detroit next year.

The location isn't all that important for a Super Bowl, particularly if the game isn't being played in New Orleans or San Diego. All we really need is a new stadium and for Lamar Hunt to request the game.

ZootedGranny · 02-08-2005, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

During his state-of-the-league address on Friday, Tagliabue mentioned Kansas City as a smaller market city that could play host to a future Super Bowl.

Maybe I'll have to give Whitlock the benefit of the doubt, as I don't have Tagliabue's words in front of me, but if I remember correctly, that wasn't the statement Tags made.

A reporter asked him what he thought about Jacksonville covering a large portion of seats, bringing the available seating down. Tagliabue thought it was smart, since it would bring the capacity closer to what the average is for new stadiums. He then mentioned that Jacksonville as a small market team has difficulties that aren't unique to them. He then only mentioned Kansas City as another small market team that has faced obstacles and done well. He also mentioned Buffalo, if I remember correctly.

I certainly don't remember him saying Arrowhead was a possible SB site, though that wasn't the entire point of this article.

Fairplay · 02-08-2005, 04:44 AM

I seriously doubt that they will put the Superbowl in a cold weather atmosphere like Kansas City. Retractable roof and all. Its just a lure to get KC to build a new staduim. Which i think it does need improved or rebuilt.

**ShortRoundChief** · 02-08-2005, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay

I seriously doubt that they will put the Superbowl in a cold weather atmosphere like Kansas City. Retractable roof and all. Its just a lure to get KC to build a new staduim. Which i think it does need improved or rebuilt.

Dude, it's in freaking detroit next year. I don't think it's gonna be in the 80's.

Thig Lyfe · 02-08-2005, 06:50 AM

Apparently Jacksonville got bad reviews as a small-market SB town. I don't know if that affects KC's chances, with or without a new stadium.

DaWolf · 02-08-2005, 07:20 AM

Tags is pimping having the thing in NY so I don't think weather is much of a factor anymore, as long as the game itself can go off without a hitch.

I think it would be very probable that Tags would guaruntee us a Super Bowl if we built a new stadium. The NFL usually takes care of its franchises, and if they felt that giving us a Super Bowl would get it done, they'd do it.

If we merely rennovate Arrowhead, I don't see that getting the game though, even if we added the rolling roof.

While I am one of the few around here who isn't staunchly against replacing both the K and Arrowhead with new digs (mainly because as good as those venues are, they are getting passed up around the rest of the league by all the new stadiums getting built and I would love to see what the best sports architechts in the world located right there in KC could come up with and not be surprised if it is better) I have a real hard time envisioning KC building two new stadiums. Some kind of an upgrade of Arrowhead is probably more likely. But in these days where guys like Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder are going to be making tons of profits from their new digs, and with new stadiums being built all over the place, an upgrade might end up being more of a bandaid than it was in the past...

TEX · 02-08-2005, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay

I seriously doubt that they will put the Superbowl in a cold weather atmosphere like Kansas City. Retractable roof and all. Its just a lure to get KC to build a new staduim. Which i think it does need improved or rebuilt.

The coldest Super Bowl ever was in Detroit and they get it again next year.

Kerberos · 02-08-2005, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ZootedGranny

I certainly don't remember him saying Arrowhead was a possible SB site, though that wasn't the entire point of this article.

What ????? Whitlock picking points out of context to make his story look good ?????

Thats a surprise !

Cliff

BigChiefFan · 02-08-2005, 09:47 AM

I'd love to have a NEW stadium. I love Arrowhead, but if we can do it right once, why can't we do it again? I'm sick of the excuses that the FO always has, so let's give them want they want, while improving our game-day experience.

HC_Chief · 02-08-2005, 09:51 AM

Screw hosting a SB... I want Hunt to concentrate on building a team to play in the SB!!!!

Hammock Parties · 02-08-2005, 09:53 AM

I thought this was about something else......

I think the Chiefs should put in one of those new grassy turf fields...forget what they are called. All the give of grass with the speed of turf! Just what our offense needs to get an advantage.

Eleazar · 02-08-2005, 09:54 AM

What makes Whitlock think this? Pure speculation?

munkey · 02-08-2005, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Dude, it's in freaking detroit next year. I don't think it's gonna be in the 80's.

What is the temp in a dome anyway?

FloridaMan88 · 02-08-2005, 10:48 AM

I'm just trying to picture what KCI would look like trying to handle all the flights and passengers flying into KC if the Super Bowl was there, wouldn't be pretty IMO

I don't think KC has the infrastructure and hotels necessary to host a Super Bowl, and unlike Jacksonville they can't just bring in a bunch of cruise ships and make them makeshift hotels.

Brock · 02-08-2005, 10:49 AM

Apparently Whitlock couldn't come up with anything interesting or realistic to write about today.

02-08-2005, 03:40 AM
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Whitlock: New field could make us Super... New field could make us Super JASON WHITLOCK link JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — We could be host to a Super Bowl. We really could. If there's one thing I learned while suffering through a Super Bowl week in Jacksonville, it's that Kansas City has enough to entice NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue to bring sports' biggest showcase to our town. All we need is a new stadium with a retractable roof and a few more hotels. We already have everything else, including the people with the necessary clout to broker such a deal. Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver pretty much put the deal together that brought Super Bowl XXXIX to Jacksonville. Wayne Weaver is no Lamar Hunt. If the Hunt family told Tagliabue that the promise of a Super Bowl would make it easier for Kansas Citians to build the Chiefs a new football palace, the commish would guarantee us a Super Bowl within the next 15 years. During his state-of-the-league address on Friday, Tagliabue mentioned Kansas City as a smaller market city that could play host to a future Super Bowl. He obviously doesn't think Arrowhead Stadium could handle the game. Tagliabue has a great deal of respect for Kansas City as an important NFL market. The league is well-aware of KC's season-ticket base and football passion. It's important to the league that the NFL remains strong in Kansas City. Tagliabue doesn't want to see an ugly, drawn-out fight for a new football stadium here. No one associated with the NFL wants to make any threats about the Chiefs possibly moving to Los Angeles. If a Super Bowl would make building a $500 million stadium easier on KC taxpayers, then I'm sure Tagliabue would be willing to do whatever he could to make it happen. And with a little help from the Hunt family, Kansas City could get a small trinket of appreciation — a Super Bowl — from the league for building a new stadium. Given Hunt's history and ties to the NFL, given the fact that he came up with the name “Super Bowl,” if Lamar Hunt asked the league to play a Super Bowl in his favorite NFL city, the league would bend over backward to do so. Super Bowl week in KC could be a celebration of Hunt's football legacy. The reality is the league owes the Hunt family a Super Bowl. Wayne Weaver can get a Super Bowl, but Lamar Hunt can't? I don't think so. There's a reason the AFC championship trophy is named after Lamar Hunt. He's one of the 20 most influential and important people in the history of the league. After Bistate II failed, it became obvious that we are going to be asked to build the Chiefs a new stadium. You can whine about the unfairness of it all. You can complain that the billionaire owners should finance their own playpens. And there's no question that the Hunts should ante up, but the reality is that KC taxpayers will have to finance a significant portion of a new stadium. So let's get something a little extra out of it. Let's get a Super Bowl. We can do it. Besides Florida weather, Jacksonville doesn't have one thing on Kansas City. And for much of Super Bowl week, the weather in Kansas City was actually better than the cold, rainy weather in Jacksonville. Jacksonville had to have cruise ships dock near downtown just so it would have enough hotel accommodations for the week. Major, nighttime parties were held underneath tents in parks. Hooters was a destination spot. Out behind the media hotel, The Adams Mark, it looked as if Jacksonville was holding a weeklong county fair. Jacksonville is small time. Right now, with The Plaza, River Market, Westport, 18th and Vine, the casinos and Gates Bar-B-Q, we have far more to offer than Jacksonville. By the time we add a new downtown arena and KC Live district, we'll feel like Las Vegas compared with Jacksonville. And you know what? People still had a good time in Jacksonville. The celebrities still showed up and held parties. Snoop Dogg, John Travolta, Will Smith and all the other beautiful people attended the game. They'll all head up to icy and crime-ridden Detroit next year. The location isn't all that important for a Super Bowl, particularly if the game isn't being played in New Orleans or San Diego. All we really need is a new stadium and for Lamar Hunt to request the game.
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02-08-2005, 04:44 AM	#3
Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	I seriously doubt that they will put the Superbowl in a cold weather atmosphere like Kansas City. Retractable roof and all. Its just a lure to get KC to build a new staduim. Which i think it does need improved or rebuilt.
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02-08-2005, 06:50 AM	#5
Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	Apparently Jacksonville got bad reviews as a small-market SB town. I don't know if that affects KC's chances, with or without a new stadium.
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02-08-2005, 07:20 AM	#6
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Tags is pimping having the thing in NY so I don't think weather is much of a factor anymore, as long as the game itself can go off without a hitch. I think it would be very probable that Tags would guaruntee us a Super Bowl if we built a new stadium. The NFL usually takes care of its franchises, and if they felt that giving us a Super Bowl would get it done, they'd do it. If we merely rennovate Arrowhead, I don't see that getting the game though, even if we added the rolling roof. While I am one of the few around here who isn't staunchly against replacing both the K and Arrowhead with new digs (mainly because as good as those venues are, they are getting passed up around the rest of the league by all the new stadiums getting built and I would love to see what the best sports architechts in the world located right there in KC could come up with and not be surprised if it is better) I have a real hard time envisioning KC building two new stadiums. Some kind of an upgrade of Arrowhead is probably more likely. But in these days where guys like Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder are going to be making tons of profits from their new digs, and with new stadiums being built all over the place, an upgrade might end up being more of a bandaid than it was in the past...
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02-08-2005, 09:47 AM	#9
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	I'd love to have a NEW stadium. I love Arrowhead, but if we can do it right once, why can't we do it again? I'm sick of the excuses that the FO always has, so let's give them want they want, while improving our game-day experience. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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02-08-2005, 09:51 AM	#10
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	Screw hosting a SB... I want Hunt to concentrate on building a team to play in the SB!!!! __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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02-08-2005, 09:53 AM	#11
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $790478	I thought this was about something else...... I think the Chiefs should put in one of those new grassy turf fields...forget what they are called. All the give of grass with the speed of turf! Just what our offense needs to get an advantage. __________________ Chiefs game films
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02-08-2005, 09:54 AM	#12
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	What makes Whitlock think this? Pure speculation?
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02-08-2005, 10:48 AM	#14
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-757094	I'm just trying to picture what KCI would look like trying to handle all the flights and passengers flying into KC if the Super Bowl was there, wouldn't be pretty IMO I don't think KC has the infrastructure and hotels necessary to host a Super Bowl, and unlike Jacksonville they can't just bring in a bunch of cruise ships and make them makeshift hotels.
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02-08-2005, 10:49 AM	#15
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	Apparently Whitlock couldn't come up with anything interesting or realistic to write about today.
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