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Old 04-22-2005, 02:10 PM  
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either at #15 or a June 1. We need someone that is at least servicable to replace Bartee and McCleon. Hopefully this doesn't end the CB pursuits.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:11 PM   #2
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I think Bartee or McCleon could both play nickel effectively. Moreso than a rookie anyway.

Can we really afford ANOTHER free agent?
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:16 PM   #3
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I agree that we should still keep our eyes open for another CB. If we can't get one that can play right away (meaning a 1st or 2nd rounder, or veteran) we should be okay, but I'd feel better if if we found another one still.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:16 PM   #4
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At 15, we need a LB or WR, we can get another CB in the 3rd, I hope we can either trade up and get a solid LB, or hopefully a good WR falls to us.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:22 PM   #5
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Other than Derrick Johnson I don't really believe there are any 4-3 linebackers worth drafting in the first round. I could live with Thomas Davis but I am guessing that if we draft him it will be to actually play safety.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:26 PM   #6
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Other than Derrick Johnson I don't really believe there are any 4-3 linebackers worth drafting in the first round. I could live with Thomas Davis but I am guessing that if we draft him it will be to actually play safety.
Chuck Cook said on the radio show that they definitely felt like Davis was a safety.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:32 PM   #7
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either at #15 or a June 1. We need someone that is at least servicable to replace Bartee and McCleon. Hopefully this doesn't end the CB pursuits.
As far as I'm concerned, our secondary is fixed now. Our deficits at LB are far too great to be worried about more CBs, IMO. We have so many questions at that position: how healthy is Fujita? Will Bell stay healthy? When (if at all) will Barber be back? Who can start at OLB out of Mitchell, Fox and Caver?

Beyond that, our DE rotation of Allen, Hicks, Wilkerson and Hall is pretty weak, IMO. CB/S is the least of my worries now. Not that it couldn't be better, just that it's gotten all the attention it deserves.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:37 PM   #8
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As far as I'm concerned, our secondary is fixed now.
I would have to disagree...what if Surtain gets hurt...then that would put us right back in the same situation
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:38 PM   #9
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when Oakland lines up with Moss, Curry and Porter, I want Surtain, Warfield and _____________ covering.

Bartee = no
McCleon = no
Sapp = no
Harts = no

We don't need a high profile FA. We need a solid nickel back. We don't seem to have one lying around.

Cut Bartee, cut McCleon and infuse this team with NFL corners.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:38 PM   #10
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I'd definitely like an upgrade at nickel, but if we stay put there, I want them to seriously look at Benny Sapp at that spot.
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I would have to disagree...what if Surtain gets hurt...then that would put us right back in the same situation
Every team can say that.

What if McNabb gets hurt?
What if Peyton gets hurt?
What if Ray Lewis gets hurt?
What if Vick gets hurt?
What if Curtis Martin gets hurt?

etcetera.

Not saying I wouldn't like more depth...
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:53 PM   #12
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I would have to disagree...what if Surtain gets hurt...then that would put us right back in the same situation
Fair point, but what I'm saying is: what if Bell gets hurt, or Fujita is hurt worse than we think? We'll end up trading with NE to get Beisel back! To me there is no comparison. Our secondary is decent now. Our LBs still scare me.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:56 PM   #13
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Every team can say that.

What if McNabb gets hurt?
What if Peyton gets hurt?
What if Ray Lewis gets hurt?
What if Vick gets hurt?
What if Curtis Martin gets hurt?

etcetera.

Not saying I wouldn't like more depth...
True, but every team did not have the 32 defense in 04!
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:57 PM   #14
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Fair point, but what I'm saying is: what if Bell gets hurt, or Fujita is hurt worse than we think? We'll end up trading with NE to get Beisel back! To me there is no comparison. Our secondary is decent now. Our LBs still scare me.
Agreed, LB is still a concern, but I am still not comfortable with the secondary situation the way it is. I would still try to get another (draft or June 1)
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when Oakland lines up with Moss, Curry and Porter, I want Surtain, Warfield and _____________ covering.
I would not be surprised to see us use Woods in the nickle.
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