Chiefs A somewhat neglected aspect of yesterday's game

FringeNC · 10-27-2008, 10:20 AM

The Chiefs consistently moved the ball through the air yesterday. They didn't wait until third down and long to throw the ball. The offense was like nothing we've seen in the three years Herm has been here, and in my opinion was the best the passing game has looked since the Cleveland game of Herm's first year.

Rather than pounding it up the center's butt from a tight formation, we spread things out, and let Thigpen do his thing.

Those who said our poor QB and poor line dictated our RRPP offense look a little foolish now. It certainly appears to me, and has always, that a line and QB need to create uncertainty on the D side in order to be effective.

What we saw yesterday was very damning of Edwards' previous gameplans.

Mr. Laz · 10-27-2008, 10:24 AM

yup .....

a quality game plan makes the players better or rather ALLOWS the players to be better.

it's not really a mystery rather than an excuse used by some to make themselves feel better.

our offense sucked for years ..... Vermeil made it #1 in the league in 1 1/2 years with few random free agents.

coaching,coaching,coaching

blueballs · 10-27-2008, 10:24 AM

they got a first down on the first drive
all bets were off

blueballs · 10-27-2008, 10:25 AM

which made the defense better

StcChief · 10-27-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

which made the defense better

yeah. when you not on the field the whole game you tend to be better.

talastan · 10-27-2008, 11:13 AM

They apparently were running a spread attack with which Pigpen is more familar with from his college days. Wow, you're supposed coach to a player's strengths rather than force a thirty year old offensive philosophy that your team isn't equipped to run? Who'd a thought?/ Herm

**the Talking Can** · 10-27-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

The Chiefs consistently moved the ball through the air yesterday. They didn't wait until third down and long to throw the ball. The offense was like nothing we've seen in the three years Herm has been here, and in my opinion was the best the passing game has looked since the Cleveland game of Herm's first year.

Rather than pounding it up the center's butt from a tight formation, we spread things out, and let Thigpen do his thing.

Those who said our poor QB and poor line dictated our RRPP offense look a little foolish now. It certainly appears to me, and has always, that a line and QB need to create uncertainty on the D side in order to be effective.

What we saw yesterday was very damning of Edwards' previous gameplans.

that would be zouk....the ultimate Herm apologist

Hootie · 10-27-2008, 11:31 AM

well at least yesterday proved Gailey > Solari...Gailey said '**** it' we might as well try something that Thigpen can actually do rather than watch him humiliate himself like he did against Atlanta.

TEX · 10-27-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

well at least yesterday proved Gailey > Solari...Gailey said '**** it' we might as well try something that Thigpen can actually do rather than watch him humiliate himself like he did against Atlanta.

Until it was time to actually win the game. Then you could see Herm's influence on things regardless of what Gaily said afterwards.

**Buehler445** · 10-27-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

well at least yesterday proved Gailey > Solari...Gailey said '**** it' we might as well try something that Thigpen can actually do rather than watch him humiliate himself like he did against Atlanta.

Until the last drive....

That's what kills me about the people who think running the SAME ****ING PLAY 3 times in a row was Gailey's call.

**Buehler445** · 10-27-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Until it was time to actually win the game. Then you could see Herm's influence on things regardless of what Gaily said afterwards.

Beat me to it

Deberg_1990 · 10-27-2008, 11:54 AM

Not sure i get the thread title? How was this aspect neglected?

ElGringo · 10-27-2008, 12:01 PM

One thing I really like about the game yesterday is it shows we can use the pass to set up the run. Assuming Charles gets healthy again (and the still uncertain future of Johnson), next week we could see a decent running game. All they have to truly judge Thigpen on is last week (all passing), so they will start game planning against the pass instead of lining 8 men in the box and daring us to pass. I hope this was not a fluke, not that we have to win too many games, but it is starting to be fun to watch again.

**bogey** · 10-27-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ElGringo

One thing I really like about the game yesterday is it shows we can use the pass to set up the run. Assuming Charles gets healthy again (and the still uncertain future of Johnson), next week we could see a decent running game. All they have to truly judge Thigpen on is last week (all passing), so they will start game planning against the pass instead of lining 8 men in the box and daring us to pass. I hope this was not a fluke, not that we have to win too many games, but it is starting to be fun to watch again.

As soon as Charles and/or LJ are back, I'll bet we go right back to run, run, pass. Or in yesterdays final series, run, run, run.

FringeNC · 10-27-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Not sure i get the thread title? How was this aspect neglected?

I dunno. Seemed liked there was to me.

10-27-2008, 10:20 AM
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1773986	A somewhat neglected aspect of yesterday's game The Chiefs consistently moved the ball through the air yesterday. They didn't wait until third down and long to throw the ball. The offense was like nothing we've seen in the three years Herm has been here, and in my opinion was the best the passing game has looked since the Cleveland game of Herm's first year. Rather than pounding it up the center's butt from a tight formation, we spread things out, and let Thigpen do his thing. Those who said our poor QB and poor line dictated our RRPP offense look a little foolish now. It certainly appears to me, and has always, that a line and QB need to create uncertainty on the D side in order to be effective. What we saw yesterday was very damning of Edwards' previous gameplans.
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10-27-2008, 10:24 AM	#2
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10-27-2008, 10:24 AM	#3
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	they got a first down on the first drive all bets were off
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talastan Manning, we're coming for you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Springfield, Mo Casino cash: $10004950	They apparently were running a spread attack with which Pigpen is more familar with from his college days. Wow, you're supposed coach to a player's strengths rather than force a thirty year old offensive philosophy that your team isn't equipped to run? Who'd a thought?/ Herm __________________ Can we please just draft AND DEVELOP a QB - est. since 1983 Check out my band: Truett and the Traitors
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well at least yesterday proved Gailey > Solari...Gailey said '**** it' we might as well try something that Thigpen can actually do rather than watch him humiliate himself like he did against Atlanta.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $104454	Not sure i get the thread title? How was this aspect neglected? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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ElGringo Veteran Join Date: May 2008 Location: Shreveport, La Casino cash: $9975100	One thing I really like about the game yesterday is it shows we can use the pass to set up the run. Assuming Charles gets healthy again (and the still uncertain future of Johnson), next week we could see a decent running game. All they have to truly judge Thigpen on is last week (all passing), so they will start game planning against the pass instead of lining 8 men in the box and daring us to pass. I hope this was not a fluke, not that we have to win too many games, but it is starting to be fun to watch again.
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