Without Gun this is a 4-12 Team

[KCJohnny]

Herm came in and achieved "balance". That's what you could say after having a D suck so bad the past 5 years that getting under 300 points (we didn't) would have been a monumental achievement. But in the name of "balance" we took the league's best offense and demoted it to a predictable, 1-dimensional cliche that dropped SIXTEEN places in ranking and performed worse than almost any offense in NFL playoff history (126 yards of total offense).

I think without Gun trying to make shinola out of $#!+ with Herm's insistance on Cover 2, this team is horrible. The Colts game shows that the testicles are on D, and that is NOT because Herm "changed the focus". If DV was here, we'd be 14-2 and laughing at the Colts because he kept Gun. That said, this team had better realize that flushing DV's O leaves not much in its place. Thank God for Gun, because without him and these over-acheivers, this team is a waste of talent. Hopefully Gun stays and keeps this team at least semi-competitive.

Awesome thread. Simply amazing.

[Coach]

Wow....

Just wow..

[Mecca]

.......Yea Gun is such a genius he asked for a ton of players got them and well those players suck.

[007]

DV would not have done much better with this offense. The line sucked.

[FringeNC]

Gun is the same piece of human feces that took a team that had an offense than set a ****ing NFL record for first downs in 2004, and led them to a losing record.

**** you, KCJ. Gun is part of the problem.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by Guru

DV would not have done much better with this offense. The line sucked.

If ya don't have what ya want, work with what ya have. Today demonstrated a cluelessness that makes Jimmy Raye look like Don Coryell. Without a valiant defense, we lost this game 56-0 with no dignity intact at all.

[blueballs]

I highly doubt Will Shields would have returned
Roaf sure as hell wouldn't have even tried

[yeti]

well this is out of left field. Gunther? Really?

[Mecca]

I hope Gunther gets fired.....

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

If ya don't have what ya want, work with what ya have. Today demonstrated a cluelessness that makes Jimmy Raye look like Don Coryell. Without a valiant defense, we lost this game 56-0 with no dignity intact at all.

Dignity died today my friend,thanks to that putrid display of offense.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I hope Gunther gets fired.....

Oh, that's a good solution.

[Basileus777]

Originally Posted by Guru

DV would not have done much better with this offense. The line sucked.

Vermeil built this offense into what it was, and I think you underestimate his ability to adjust. I have no doubt that if Vermeil were here this line would not be playing quite this badly. The play calling would not be this bad and our offense would have more confidence if Vermeil was here.

[007]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

If ya don't have what ya want, work with what ya have. Today demonstrated a cluelessness that makes Jimmy Raye look like Don Coryell. Without a valiant defense, we lost this game 56-0 with no dignity intact at all.

I was referring to the entire season.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Dignity died today my friend,thanks to that putrid display of offense.

Without the heart demonstrated by the D, this game is a humiliation of Biblical proportions. The NFL's Top O from 2005 getting 126 yards of total offense against one of the worst defenses in history to ever make the playoffs. Yeah. Right. Fire Gun.