Thin and young Secondary Thoughts

[Chief Roundup]

Our Defense is now down a 3rd player in the secondary. All 3 of these players were high quality veteran players that were important to our team and Defense.
Peters has been exceptional. But his own youth almost got the most of him a couple of times as even he alluded too. He mentioned that the veterans helped calm him down.
I do not really know what is available from the FA pool. I know there seems like some good prospects in the draft at the CB position, can they have as much impact in their rookie season as Peters did though is the real question.
Don't know much about the Safety pool in the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if we spend our first two rounds on the secondary.

I hope we sign at least one vet and don't go that young.

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Our Defense is now down a 3rd player in the secondary. All 3 of these players were high quality veteran players that were important to our team and Defense.
Peters has been exceptional. But his own youth almost got the most of him a couple of times as even he alluded too. He mentioned that the veterans helped calm him down.
I do not really know what is available from the FA pool. I know there seems like some good prospects in the draft at the CB position, can they have as much impact in their rookie season as Peters did though is the real question.
Don't know much about the Safety pool in the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if we spend our first two rounds on the secondary.

I hope we sign at least one vet and don't go that young.

I love the idea of Karl Joseph in the first.. Corner is more pressing, but as much as we use our safeties I'd love the idea of taking him... It might be a little early, but I don't think he'd be there in the second. He's the total package for a safety.. Great in coverage, and great in run support. He's also got that Tyrann Mathieu versatility.. I don't think he'd have a problem covering man in the slot

[jd1020]

Sanders Commings is ready to break a leg.

[Chief Roundup]

Hope for Eli Apple but WJIII or Alexander would be ok in the first. From the rankings I have seen I was hoping maybe Von Bell or Joseph might be there in the 2cd.

[O.city]

I'd think they'd look later in the draft for safeties as they need more 4 and 5 type safeties vs immediate starters

[RealSNR]

Every single training camp/preseason, Dorsey takes the notion that our secondary sucks and kicks it in the balls.

Fans are stupid. Dorsey is smart.

We're gonna be fine. We'll come up with a solution, if we even need one.

[BossChief]

Gaines and Peters will be more than fine as the starting corners in base defense.

Berry and Parker will be fine in base defense.

I think moving Fleming to safety is gonna pay dividends.

I'm a bit concerned how we're gonna do in nickel and dime, but Dorsey has earned the benefit of the doubt on building the secondary.

1) we really need that third rounder back.
2) Houston needs to be healthy by midseason and going into the postseason.
3) every guy in the front 7 has extra motivation next year. Poe and Howard are playing for new deals...DJ and Hali has sense of urgency due to age...Ford is playing for respect..Houston and Bailey are on a mission.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'd think they'd look later in the draft for safeties as they need more 4 and 5 type safeties vs immediate starters

Unless we are able to get some decent vet FA I think "later in the draft" will not equate to helping the team this season at the safety position. We have Berry, Parker and Sorensen who is really a ST than a starting safety.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Gaines and Peters will be more than fine as the starting corners in base defense.

Berry and Parker will be fine in base defense.

I think moving Fleming to safety is gonna pay dividends.

I'm a bit concerned how we're gonna do in nickel and dime, but Dorsey has earned the benefit of the doubt on building the secondary.

1) we really need that third rounder back.
2) Houston needs to be healthy by midseason and going into the postseason.
3) every guy in the front 7 has extra motivation next year. Poe and Howard are playing for new deals...DJ and Hali has sense of urgency due to age...Ford is playing for respect..Houston and Bailey are on a mission.

810 AM said that Fleming was moved bc his best play in 2014 was in zone coverage. He played mostly press last year and got burnt.

Gotta think Dorsey views this as Ron Parker version 2.0

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Every single training camp/preseason, Dorsey takes the notion that our secondary sucks and kicks it in the balls.

Fans are stupid. Dorsey is smart.

We're gonna be fine. We'll come up with a solution, if we even need one.

I am not worried at all at this point. Dorsey has been able to find what has been needed. I am just curious where everyone thinks that might come from in the draft, FA and for which positions.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Unless we are able to get some decent vet FA I think "later in the draft" will not equate to helping the team this season at the safety position. We have Berry, Parker and Sorensen who is really a ST than a starting safety.

They don't "need" immediate starter types with what they've already got on board.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by O.city

They don't "need" immediate starter types with what they've already got on board.

No they don't but a 4th or 5th round talent is going to get abused when they do rotations. Sutton likes to use those sets that require more than 2 safeties. Don't forget a viable insurance policy in case of injury.

[staylor26]

I'm also of the opinion that Fleming will be a solid safety for sub packages.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

No they don't but a 4th or 5th round talent is going to get abused when they do rotations. Sutton likes to use those sets that require more than 2 safeties. Don't forget a viable insurance policy in case of injury.

Why? There are good players that come out of those rounds every year.

Just depends what they ask them to do.

[ChiefAshhole1056]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

I love the idea of Karl Joseph in the first.. Corner is more pressing, but as much as we use our safeties I'd love the idea of taking him... It might be a little early, but I don't think he'd be there in the second. He's the total package for a safety.. Great in coverage, and great in run support. He's also got that Tyrann Mathieu versatility.. I don't think he'd have a problem covering man in the slot

Haven't seen anything that suggests he would have to be taken at 28. Seems to have the "injury concern" label floating around with him, that with the depth at the position should put him in the mid-day 2 range.