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Old 11-18-2021, 12:11 PM   Topic Starter
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The Chiefs offense was never bad
#1 in 3rd down conversion percentage --- by alot. Because Mahomes.

1. KC 53.33%
2. Buffalo 48.72%
3. Tampa Bay 48.25%
4. New England 46.92%
5. Dallas 45.69%

In 2020 - Chiefs 2nd.
In 2019 - Chiefs T2nd.
In 2018 - Chiefs 3rd.
In 2017 - Chiefs 15th. Wow imagine that? Ya boi Alex Smiff.

The Chiefs offense this year was never bad. They just had weird and many fluky fumbles. A bunch of tipped passes for INTs and key drops.

Imagine if they played 162 games. They'd have losing streaks. Shit happens. Deal with it. Let it fly.
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Old 11-18-2021, 12:15 PM   #2
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It was pretty bad against Green Bay. But yeah a lot of the issues just came from turnovers. Otherwise the offense is humming and moving the ball with ease.
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Old 11-18-2021, 12:16 PM   #3
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It was pretty bad against Green Bay. But yeah a lot of the issues just came from turnovers. Otherwise the offense is humming and moving the ball with ease.
You cant just throw turnovers out of the window. They're part of how an offense is measured.
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They were bad bc of self inflicted errors. A lot of those turnovers should not have happened.

So no I think little of it was due to defenses compared to our own issues
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Old 11-18-2021, 12:20 PM   #5
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They were bad bc of self inflicted errors. A lot of those turnovers should not have happened.

So no I think little of it was due to defenses compared to our own issues
Perhaps part of being so successful on 3rd down is not being risk adverse. Sometimes shit happens.

The 2015 Royals didn't go 162-0. It's a long season. Shit gonna happen.

Throw the ball up. Like the one to Darrell last game on 3rd and long. If it's picked off it's picked off. Who gives a shit. Now 1st down ints or int's way back in your own territory different story.
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Old 11-18-2021, 12:24 PM   #6
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You cant just throw turnovers out of the window. They're part of how an offense is measured.
I do think it was always due to regress back to the mean though. The strange streak of turnovers is not what this team has ever been about.
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I do think it was always due to regress back to the mean though. The strange streak of turnovers is not what this team has ever been about.
Worse than just regressing to the mean though. Someone posted the list of QB's with turnover worthy throws and Mahomes was a lot lower on the list than you might expect, yet he has way more INT's than some of the names above him on the list (guys like Allen/Rodgers). You've had a ton of flukey fumbles as well by guys like Kelce, Hill, Hardman, Pringle, CEH.
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I do think it was always due to regress back to the mean though. The strange streak of turnovers is not what this team has ever been about.
Yeah of course. But that streak happened and in that streak we were playing bad football. I don't get the revisionist history in trying to say a turnover prone team that scored 36 points in 3 games including a 3 point game wasn't bad offense.
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Yeah of course. But that streak happened and in that streak we were playing bad football. I don't get the revisionist history in trying to say a turnover prone team that scored 36 points in 3 games including a 3 point game wasn't bad offense.
A good offense is still a good offense even if it performs poorly through the ebbs and flows of a long season - or in this case a 3-4 year run with the same offensive personnel essentially.
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You cant just throw turnovers out of the window. They're part of how an offense is measured.
Thank ****ing Christ we have a confident QB on our team. Patrick made horrible mistakes and he still kept firing. That TD to Williams was full proof.

Alex Smith would have turtled the **** up the rest of the season out of fear.

Yeah it sucks we were in a slump but shit happens. We’re getting through it
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I mean that is one statistic.

The fact of the matter is that they played like absolute ass for 3 weeks.

The good news though is that they're good again. So all that shit is behind us now.
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It was pretty bad against Green Bay. But yeah a lot of the issues just came from turnovers. Otherwise the offense is humming and moving the ball with ease.
Didn’t GB shut out Seattle last week? We scored 13 in the first half then they shut us out in the 2nd. Sometimes you run into a hot defense and look mortal.
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A teams offense that turns the ball over a league leading amount of times and scores 36 points over 3 games is bad. So yeah they were bad that stretch.
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They had a bad stretch but before that bad stretch they were a top 10 passing offense and the national narrative was that the offense was struggling
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4/11 against the Titans
5/12 against the Bills
5/14 against the Packers

Being incredibly efficient in September averaged out pretty well with being shit in Oct/early Nov.

And I'm completely guessing the difference between the Chiefs and Bills/Bucs is like 1 conversion every game or two... not "a lot".

No need to rewrite history, it was a struggle for a while... they were bad, like your math skills.
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