KC Cornerback Situation Still not Without Hope

Braincase · 03-10-2005, 02:04 PM

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KC Cornerback Situation Still not Without Hope

Tom Elliott - Scout.com
March 10, 2005 at 9:43am ET
Ok, I know the crÃ¨me de la crÃ¨me is gone, but there are still options out there for the Chiefs in their pursuit to sign or trade for a veteran cornerback or two.

At least the Chiefs have one cornerback who can hold his own and that's Eric Warfield who has the ability to be a true shut down corner. His other mates like William Bartee and Julian Battle do not that ability. There remains a glimmer of hope for Battle but he struggled last year as did veteran Dexter McCleon who demonstrated that he is going downhill fast as his skills are diminishing in rapid fashion.

There are players out there who could start across from Warfield. Ty Law is the front-runner, of course, but Andre Dyson , Corey Fuller , Kelly Herndon or Mario Edwards would also be a sizeable improvement over what Kansas City has on the roster today.

There are several players out there that could add some depth, too. Earthwind Mooreland from New England who stepped in last season against the Chiefs and held his own; has started a few games for the Patriots, and has practiced with some of the best--Poole and Law. If we absolutely can't sign any other premier free agent CB's, he would give Bartee, Battle and McCleon a run at a starting position if all other names mentioned fail to get a deal done with the Chiefs.

Another player on the radar screen is Kevin Mathis who had his best year ever with the Falcons in 2004, who was forced into the starting lineup because of injuries in Atlanta's secondary.

And remember, the cornerbacks will be under a lot less pressure if they are surrounded by better players; Bell will help to get pressure on the QB, hopefully with a good DE to aid him, and a younger, faster safety will help the pass coverage immensely and maybe some of the current Chiefs could start making plays. But that appears to be something that the Chiefs aren't willing to wait on in regards to anyone outside of Warfield.

Add to this the draft, which is at least 10-15 deep on CB's this year, and the unpredictable June 1 cuts, and we still have a lot to hope for, Chiefs fans.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-10-2005, 02:09 PM

I wouldn't say Warfield has the ability to be a true shutdown corner. He would make one hell of a solid #2 CB if we could get a #1. Otherwise, Warfield is a serviceable #1 but nothing spectacular.

jcroft · 03-10-2005, 02:11 PM

"still not without hope?"

Isn't that a double negative? If not, it's got to be the weakest headline I've ever seen in a real publication. Why not:

Still hope for KC cornerback situation
KC cornerback situation not hopeless yet

Yuck.

beavis · 03-10-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I wouldn't say Warfield has the ability to be a true shutdown corner. He would make one hell of a solid #2 CB if we could get a #1. Otherwise, Warfield is a serviceable #1 but nothing spectacular.

That's where he lost credibility with me. Warfield is a solid #2, but no more than that.

Wallcrawler · 03-10-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

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At least the Chiefs have one cornerback who can hold his own and that's Eric Warfield who has the ability to be a true shut down corner.

There are several players out there that could add some depth, too. Earthwind Mooreland from New England who stepped in last season against the Chiefs and held his own; has started a few games for the Patriots, and has practiced with some of the best--Poole and Law. If we absolutely can't sign any other premier free agent CB's, he would give Bartee, Battle and McCleon a run at a starting position if all other names mentioned fail to get a deal done with the Chiefs.

In reading these excerpts, I can already tell that the writer of this article doesnt have a f'ing clue what he is talking about.

Eric Warfield a shutdown corner? Please. Give me a break. He did an average job at corner, but in no way is he going to turn into a shutdown cornerback.

Earthwind Mooreland? Are you kidding me? Any Patriots fan will tell you that Mooreland sucks big frothy jars of ass. The only reason he didnt look like a complete fool was due to the schemes of Crennel and Belichick to take all the pressure off the corners. If Mooreland is signed, the Chiefs will have hit rock bottom as far as adding talent to the CB position is concerned.

Mark Twain was right when he said "Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Tom Elliot doesnt have a shred of common sense when it comes to football. Calling Warfield a shutdown corner and saying Earthwind Mooreland would greatly help this secondary.

Okay Tom Elliot, now just go ahead and have enough pride to end your own life. You ignorant fool.

Mr. Laz · 03-10-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

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KC Cornerback Situation Still not Without Hope

Tom Elliott - Scout.com
March 10, 2005 at 9:43am ET

At least the Chiefs have one cornerback who can hold his own and that's Eric Warfield who has the ability to be a true shut down corner.

the rest of his article is meaningless

if this guy thinks that warfield can be a "true shut down corner" then he's too stupid for anything else he says to mean chit.

whoman69 · 03-10-2005, 02:32 PM

Its worse than I thought. We're left with "Keep Hope Alive."

Does the author of this article know that Warfield has to serve a suspension for his dui?

Nightfyre · 03-10-2005, 02:34 PM

IF the QB doesnt have 7 seconds to throw the ball, Warfield will look a lot more like a shutdown CB. Really. The QB could sit back there for 7-10 seconds every play last year, no exaggeration. Then we wonder why our opponents averaged 13.5 ypc on us and over a 60% completion rate.

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Braincase Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pond> Me <Barn Casino cash: $11298284	KC Cornerback Situation Still not Without Hope Link KC Cornerback Situation Still not Without Hope Tom Elliott - Scout.com March 10, 2005 at 9:43am ET Ok, I know the crÃ¨me de la crÃ¨me is gone, but there are still options out there for the Chiefs in their pursuit to sign or trade for a veteran cornerback or two. At least the Chiefs have one cornerback who can hold his own and that's Eric Warfield who has the ability to be a true shut down corner. His other mates like William Bartee and Julian Battle do not that ability. There remains a glimmer of hope for Battle but he struggled last year as did veteran Dexter McCleon who demonstrated that he is going downhill fast as his skills are diminishing in rapid fashion. There are players out there who could start across from Warfield. Ty Law is the front-runner, of course, but Andre Dyson , Corey Fuller , Kelly Herndon or Mario Edwards would also be a sizeable improvement over what Kansas City has on the roster today. There are several players out there that could add some depth, too. Earthwind Mooreland from New England who stepped in last season against the Chiefs and held his own; has started a few games for the Patriots, and has practiced with some of the best--Poole and Law. If we absolutely can't sign any other premier free agent CB's, he would give Bartee, Battle and McCleon a run at a starting position if all other names mentioned fail to get a deal done with the Chiefs. Another player on the radar screen is Kevin Mathis who had his best year ever with the Falcons in 2004, who was forced into the starting lineup because of injuries in Atlanta's secondary. And remember, the cornerbacks will be under a lot less pressure if they are surrounded by better players; Bell will help to get pressure on the QB, hopefully with a good DE to aid him, and a younger, faster safety will help the pass coverage immensely and maybe some of the current Chiefs could start making plays. But that appears to be something that the Chiefs aren't willing to wait on in regards to anyone outside of Warfield. Add to this the draft, which is at least 10-15 deep on CB's this year, and the unpredictable June 1 cuts, and we still have a lot to hope for, Chiefs fans.
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DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $6714952	I wouldn't say Warfield has the ability to be a true shutdown corner. He would make one hell of a solid #2 CB if we could get a #1. Otherwise, Warfield is a serviceable #1 but nothing spectacular. __________________
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Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3328849	IF the QB doesnt have 7 seconds to throw the ball, Warfield will look a lot more like a shutdown CB. Really. The QB could sit back there for 7-10 seconds every play last year, no exaggeration. Then we wonder why our opponents averaged 13.5 ypc on us and over a 60% completion rate.
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