1 CB down, 1 CB to go

Bootlegged · 04-22-2005, 02:10 PM

either at #15 or a June 1. We need someone that is at least servicable to replace Bartee and McCleon. Hopefully this doesn't end the CB pursuits.

Hammock Parties · 04-22-2005, 02:11 PM

I think Bartee or McCleon could both play nickel effectively. Moreso than a rookie anyway.

Can we really afford ANOTHER free agent?

jcroft · 04-22-2005, 02:16 PM

I agree that we should still keep our eyes open for another CB. If we can't get one that can play right away (meaning a 1st or 2nd rounder, or veteran) we should be okay, but I'd feel better if if we found another one still.

Bearcat2005 · 04-22-2005, 02:16 PM

At 15, we need a LB or WR, we can get another CB in the 3rd, I hope we can either trade up and get a solid LB, or hopefully a good WR falls to us.

Logical · 04-22-2005, 02:22 PM

Other than Derrick Johnson I don't really believe there are any 4-3 linebackers worth drafting in the first round. I could live with Thomas Davis but I am guessing that if we draft him it will be to actually play safety.

jcroft · 04-22-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Other than Derrick Johnson I don't really believe there are any 4-3 linebackers worth drafting in the first round. I could live with Thomas Davis but I am guessing that if we draft him it will be to actually play safety.

Chuck Cook said on the radio show that they definitely felt like Davis was a safety.

Cormac · 04-22-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

either at #15 or a June 1. We need someone that is at least servicable to replace Bartee and McCleon. Hopefully this doesn't end the CB pursuits.

As far as I'm concerned, our secondary is fixed now. Our deficits at LB are far too great to be worried about more CBs, IMO. We have so many questions at that position: how healthy is Fujita? Will Bell stay healthy? When (if at all) will Barber be back? Who can start at OLB out of Mitchell, Fox and Caver?

Beyond that, our DE rotation of Allen, Hicks, Wilkerson and Hall is pretty weak, IMO. CB/S is the least of my worries now. Not that it couldn't be better, just that it's gotten all the attention it deserves.

**alpha_omega** · 04-22-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cormac

As far as I'm concerned, our secondary is fixed now.

I would have to disagree...what if Surtain gets hurt...then that would put us right back in the same situation

Bootlegged · 04-22-2005, 02:38 PM

when Oakland lines up with Moss, Curry and Porter, I want Surtain, Warfield and _____________ covering.

Bartee = no
McCleon = no
Sapp = no
Harts = no

We don't need a high profile FA. We need a solid nickel back. We don't seem to have one lying around.

Cut Bartee, cut McCleon and infuse this team with NFL corners.

ZootedGranny · 04-22-2005, 02:38 PM

I'd definitely like an upgrade at nickel, but if we stay put there, I want them to seriously look at Benny Sapp at that spot.

jcroft · 04-22-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega

I would have to disagree...what if Surtain gets hurt...then that would put us right back in the same situation

Every team can say that.

What if McNabb gets hurt?
What if Peyton gets hurt?
What if Ray Lewis gets hurt?
What if Vick gets hurt?
What if Curtis Martin gets hurt?

etcetera.

Not saying I wouldn't like more depth...

Cormac · 04-22-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega

I would have to disagree...what if Surtain gets hurt...then that would put us right back in the same situation

Fair point, but what I'm saying is: what if Bell gets hurt, or Fujita is hurt worse than we think? We'll end up trading with NE to get Beisel back! To me there is no comparison. Our secondary is decent now. Our LBs still scare me.

**alpha_omega** · 04-22-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

Every team can say that.

What if McNabb gets hurt?
What if Peyton gets hurt?
What if Ray Lewis gets hurt?
What if Vick gets hurt?
What if Curtis Martin gets hurt?

etcetera.

Not saying I wouldn't like more depth...

True, but every team did not have the 32 defense in 04!

**alpha_omega** · 04-22-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cormac

Fair point, but what I'm saying is: what if Bell gets hurt, or Fujita is hurt worse than we think? We'll end up trading with NE to get Beisel back! To me there is no comparison. Our secondary is decent now. Our LBs still scare me.

Agreed, LB is still a concern, but I am still not comfortable with the secondary situation the way it is. I would still try to get another (draft or June 1)

Hydrae · 04-22-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

when Oakland lines up with Moss, Curry and Porter, I want Surtain, Warfield and _____________ covering.

I would not be surprised to see us use Woods in the nickle.

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