NFT: Outside painting tips ?

ROYC75 · 01:20 PM

OK, my mother in law has a deck that was built 2 years ago. They used pressure treatred lumber on all but the deck floor. It has 1" particle board on it that I need to paint. The weather will take it's toll on particle board if not painted.

Do I use an oil base on it or a outdoor latex?

I know this shit is going to soak in and will probally reqiure at least 2 coats .

Info ?

**Lzen** · 05-09-2005, 01:09 PM

They used particle board for the deck floor? Hmm, never heard of that but then again, I'm no expert. I do know that you're supposed to re-treat it every year for the floor and every couple for the railings on a normal deck.

ROYC75 · 05-09-2005, 01:18 PM

I don't think you have to retreat the pressure lumber , do ya ?

I know the 1" particle board needs to be treated, I mentioned it to them then. They didn't do it. Now it needs to be painted.

If anybody knows, jump in.

shakesthecat · 05-09-2005, 01:22 PM

The only advice I can give would be to make damn sure you don't let Naptown's wife buy the paint.

**mlyonsd** · 05-09-2005, 01:24 PM

I can't remember exactly what it's called but I do know they make something like a porch paint. It's for wooden porches, which is essentially what a deck is. I would think any major brand paint store would sell it.

I used it once in a paint-a-thon so I don't know how well it lasted. It was oil based.

redbrian · 05-09-2005, 01:31 PM

Partical board as the deck?

Just out of curiosity how is this deck installed? Is it in 4x8 sheets or what?

The problem I see is the edges and bottom once particle board starts soaking up moisture your in for big problems.

If you seal the top you have to contend with the edges and bottom.

**Iowanian** · 05-09-2005, 01:36 PM

I don't think I'd use latex paint on a deck. Use Oil based.

When you're done, if its partical board.......I think you should get a spray gun and spray the piss out of the top and undersides with a good water sealer....A GOOD water sealer.

You don't want III and his Mrs falling through when they're out having a poke while you're all eating dinner.

05-09-2005, 01:39 PM

I, too can't believe the particle board info. Surely that's a mistake.

You want something that is rated for foot traffic. Ask at your local paint store. If you have a Sherman Williams in your area, call me first.

ROYC75 · 05-09-2005, 01:43 PM

It's 1" thick, pretty damn sturdy too. I'm thinking it's that new stuff that is glued in layers. The floor joist under it ar 2x10". It covered over the top, so the only exposeure to rain is the outer edges .

In 2 years, it only has a weathered look, I don't think a good water seal would work , would it . Even after 2 years ?

I was think'n a good oil bas paint as well like Iowanian mentioned. A couple of coats and have the bottom sprayed by paint gunat least once.

**Dave Lane** · 05-09-2005, 01:50 PM

Good gawd! Particle board outside! Rip it up and replace ASAP! Even MDF is not good for a deck. Ask for Phils help or mine you are in for major trouble and soon.

I suppose you could alway apply a layer of felt then 90# rolled roofing over that. Thats what it is intended for.

Dave

05-09-2005, 01:52 PM

Are you certain it's particle board and not a plastic/wood hybrid product like Trex?

ROYC75 · 05-09-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Are you certain it's particle board and not a plastic/wood hybrid product like Trex?

It's been 2 years, I'm not sure. ( I think Trex is it )It has a very rough texture like particle board. It has weatherd so much, but nowhere on the edges is is weak, signs of water damage, or spoungey like. It's solid across the deck and edges. Again, it has a roof over the top so the only exposure is the sides when it rains.

I'm thinking if it is sealed well it will hold up.

Keep in mind, she is 75 yrs old, who knows how long she will live and use it, but during family outings like yesterday, it was nice in the evening to use.

Since I will have to pay for this, I do not intend to use alot of money, since I haven't much. Just looking for a 5 - 10 year option for the cheapest route Ican go.

ltlchfinD · 05-09-2005, 02:02 PM

Use oil based deck or floor paint, but it will start to expand and seperate on the sides and bottom because it will retain moisture and expeand and eventually fall apart

ROYC75 · 05-09-2005, 02:03 PM

It's not the old particle board ( sawdust )of old, the shit you can crumble up in you hands .

I kid you not, this shit is strong, but it looks like some form of particle board. It does have some long grain texture to it.

**mlyonsd** · 05-09-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

It's not the old particle board ( sawdust )of old, the shit you can crumble up in you hands .

I kid you not, this shit is strong, but it looks like some form of particle board. It does have some long grain texture to it.

Throw a glassful of gas on it and see if it burns. I'm thinking about building a deck and am interested if it's wood or not.

05-09-2005, 12:55 PM
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05-09-2005, 01:09 PM	#2
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05-09-2005, 01:18 PM	#3
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5239400	I don't think you have to retreat the pressure lumber , do ya ? I know the 1" particle board needs to be treated, I mentioned it to them then. They didn't do it. Now it needs to be painted. If anybody knows, jump in. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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05-09-2005, 01:22 PM	#4
shakesthecat Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IA Casino cash: $3973833	The only advice I can give would be to make damn sure you don't let Naptown's wife buy the paint.
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05-09-2005, 01:24 PM	#5
mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $1213762	I can't remember exactly what it's called but I do know they make something like a porch paint. It's for wooden porches, which is essentially what a deck is. I would think any major brand paint store would sell it. I used it once in a paint-a-thon so I don't know how well it lasted. It was oil based.
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05-09-2005, 01:31 PM	#6
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	Partical board as the deck? Just out of curiosity how is this deck installed? Is it in 4x8 sheets or what? The problem I see is the edges and bottom once particle board starts soaking up moisture your in for big problems. If you seal the top you have to contend with the edges and bottom.
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05-09-2005, 01:36 PM	#7
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4608454	I don't think I'd use latex paint on a deck. Use Oil based. When you're done, if its partical board.......I think you should get a spray gun and spray the piss out of the top and undersides with a good water sealer....A GOOD water sealer. You don't want III and his Mrs falling through when they're out having a poke while you're all eating dinner.
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05-09-2005, 01:39 PM	#8
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	I, too can't believe the particle board info. Surely that's a mistake. You want something that is rated for foot traffic. Ask at your local paint store. If you have a Sherman Williams in your area, call me first.
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05-09-2005, 01:43 PM	#9
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5239400	It's 1" thick, pretty damn sturdy too. I'm thinking it's that new stuff that is glued in layers. The floor joist under it ar 2x10". It covered over the top, so the only exposeure to rain is the outer edges . In 2 years, it only has a weathered look, I don't think a good water seal would work , would it . Even after 2 years ? I was think'n a good oil bas paint as well like Iowanian mentioned. A couple of coats and have the bottom sprayed by paint gunat least once. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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05-09-2005, 01:50 PM	#10
Dave Lane Space Cadet and Aczabel Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kanab, UT, USA Casino cash: $9333275 VARSITY	Good gawd! Particle board outside! Rip it up and replace ASAP! Even MDF is not good for a deck. Ask for Phils help or mine you are in for major trouble and soon. I suppose you could alway apply a layer of felt then 90# rolled roofing over that. Thats what it is intended for. Dave __________________ Thanks, Trump for the civics lesson. We are learning so much about RICO, espionage, sedition, impeachment, the 25th Amendment, order of succession, nepotism, separation of powers, 1st Amendment, obstruction of justice, the emoluments clause, conflicts of interest, collusion, sanctions, oligarchs, money laundering and so much more.
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05-09-2005, 01:52 PM	#11
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	Are you certain it's particle board and not a plastic/wood hybrid product like Trex?
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05-09-2005, 02:02 PM	#13
ltlchfinD Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas Casino cash: $10004900	Use oil based deck or floor paint, but it will start to expand and seperate on the sides and bottom because it will retain moisture and expeand and eventually fall apart
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05-09-2005, 02:03 PM	#14
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $5239400	It's not the old particle board ( sawdust )of old, the shit you can crumble up in you hands . I kid you not, this shit is strong, but it looks like some form of particle board. It does have some long grain texture to it. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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