Ashley Ambrose, our new CB?

Bootlegged · 06-28-2005, 04:50 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/12000685.htm

chiefs seek corner

Law is still in picture

Ambrose, however, remains favorite

As week two of the Chiefs’ search for a cornerback began Monday, Ashley Ambrose emerged as the realistic favorite, and Ty Law kept his spot somewhere high on the speed dial.

Coach Dick Vermeil said Monday night that the Chiefs are “very interested” in Ambrose, a 13-year veteran who worked out in Kansas City late last week. The holdup, at least in part, is Law, the Pro Bowl corner who visited the Chiefs in March and is still on the market.

The Chiefs want Law if he will sign for a dramatically reduced price. But Law, who just began making cuts on his surgically repaired foot, reportedly wants big money.

“The thought is to play the whole scenario out,” Vermeil said, “and the scenario does include a final evaluation of Ty Law in terms of what is actually going to happen from a financial standpoint.

“First off, can he pass the physical? And then we have to find out how much money he’s going to be offered on the open market. If he’s going to be offered big money, then we’re automatically out of it.”

While Law was rehabbing his foot this spring, the Chiefs signed cornerback Patrick Surtain, safety Sammy Knight, linebacker Kendrell Bell and defensive end Carlos Hall. The defense appeared to be complete, but then Julian Battle tore his Achilles’ heel during minicamp June 18.

Battle was running with the first team because starter Eric Warfield may miss at least part of the season due to an NFL suspension.

So the Chiefs brought in four free-agent cornerbacks last week who are nearing the twilight of their careers, and Ambrose, 34, was the most impressive. He started six games last year for the Saints and was a Pro Bowler with the Bengals in 1996. After watching film on Ambrose, a 5-foot-11, 195-pound Louisiana native, Vermeil said it’s obvious he can still play.

Ambrose’s agent, Kennard McGuire, said three teams have shown “a tremendous amount of interest,” but Ambrose is patient and wants to find the right fit.

“He’s been to the Pro Bowl, he’s done extremely well from a contractual standpoint,” McGuire said. “I believe more pressing issue with him is being afforded that opportunity to play with a contender. He feels like this is one of situations he’s been waiting on.”

Ambrose will need patience. Vermeil, who’s vacationing in Pennsylvania, said it’s unclear how long the Chiefs will wait to sign a corner. Training camp starts July 28 in River Falls, Wis.

He said the Chiefs have no immediate plans to bring Law in for a physical.

“I think realistically that we, in the future, will make a move on Ashley,” Vermeil said. “Right now we’ve just decided to be patient and see what happens.”

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**ExtremeChief** · 06-28-2005, 05:00 AM

He would probably be better than McCleon.

beer bacon · 06-28-2005, 05:05 AM

Why would they want Ambrose over Beasley?

DaWolf · 06-28-2005, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

Why would they want Ambrose over Beasley?

Ambrose ripped off his sleeves and grew a beard...

**the Talking Can** · 06-28-2005, 05:47 AM

sweet, he was in the pro bowl....a decade ago...anyone got Merton Hanks number?

tomahawk kid · 06-28-2005, 06:37 AM

I have a hard time believing that the oldest guy there looked the best in the tryouts.

I would be a little upset that THIS guy was our favorite, if we needed him for more than 2-4 games.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-28-2005, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExtremeChief

He would probably be better than McCleon.

yep... he can't be worse at least.

tomahawk kid · 06-28-2005, 06:45 AM

The funny thing about this, is that Chiefs tried out Ambrose in the 1999 offseason and decided to go with Chris Dishman instead.

Apparently, Ambrose has improved with age.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-28-2005, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

The funny thing about this, is that Chiefs tried out Ambrose in the 1999 offseason and decided to go with Chris Dishman instead.

Apparently, Ambrose has improved with age.

I liked Chris Dishman. I remember vividly an interception he took back for a td. Might have been the only one he ever had... but I remember it.

tomahawk kid · 06-28-2005, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me

I liked Chris Dishman. I remember vividly an interception he took back for a td. Might have been the only one he ever had... but I remember it.

I remember that. I was against the Raiders in Oakland.

RedThat · 06-28-2005, 07:08 AM

No...No...No...No...No...Not Ashley Ambrose! He should retire and hang up those cleets. The guy is done. He was good 8-10 years ago. But that was then, this is now. The guy is bad now, he plays on a bad defense, and is on the worst pass defense in the league. I remember Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning made him look silly one game. That was a one of the games where Peyton Manning threw for like 6 TD's. Why would the Saints release him? Why would they trade for Mike McKenzie? Cause Ashley Ambrose is not that good. That's all there is to it. What makes this move even worse is, the Saints do have a pretty good defensive line, but, like us, their cover corners we're awful. He could be better than McCleon, I agree with what some of you say, but, not by much. On the other hand, what can we expect from signing a guy for the veteran minimum? These are the type of caliber players we are going to get for cheap I guess.

**Mr. Kotter** · 06-28-2005, 07:12 AM

Ashley Ambrose = Chris Dishman/Ray Crocket....but I guess the price is right.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-28-2005, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

I remember that. I was against the Raiders in Oakland.

YES! sweet.

htismaqe · 06-28-2005, 07:22 AM

Ashley Ambrose - 3 INT's, 22 solo tackles

Eric Warfield - 4 INT's, 43 solo tackles
Dexter McCleon - 2 INT's, 30 solo tackles
William Bartee - 0 INT's, 38 solo tackles

It's all about the $$$.

**ptlyon** · 06-28-2005, 07:31 AM

Did someone say smokescreen?

06-28-2005, 04:50 AM
Bootlegged One4Mahomes Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: f Casino cash: $9955545	Ashley Ambrose, our new CB? http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/12000685.htm chiefs seek corner Law is still in picture Ambrose, however, remains favorite As week two of the Chiefs’ search for a cornerback began Monday, Ashley Ambrose emerged as the realistic favorite, and Ty Law kept his spot somewhere high on the speed dial. Coach Dick Vermeil said Monday night that the Chiefs are “very interested” in Ambrose, a 13-year veteran who worked out in Kansas City late last week. The holdup, at least in part, is Law, the Pro Bowl corner who visited the Chiefs in March and is still on the market. The Chiefs want Law if he will sign for a dramatically reduced price. But Law, who just began making cuts on his surgically repaired foot, reportedly wants big money. “The thought is to play the whole scenario out,” Vermeil said, “and the scenario does include a final evaluation of Ty Law in terms of what is actually going to happen from a financial standpoint. “First off, can he pass the physical? And then we have to find out how much money he’s going to be offered on the open market. If he’s going to be offered big money, then we’re automatically out of it.” While Law was rehabbing his foot this spring, the Chiefs signed cornerback Patrick Surtain, safety Sammy Knight, linebacker Kendrell Bell and defensive end Carlos Hall. The defense appeared to be complete, but then Julian Battle tore his Achilles’ heel during minicamp June 18. Battle was running with the first team because starter Eric Warfield may miss at least part of the season due to an NFL suspension. So the Chiefs brought in four free-agent cornerbacks last week who are nearing the twilight of their careers, and Ambrose, 34, was the most impressive. He started six games last year for the Saints and was a Pro Bowler with the Bengals in 1996. After watching film on Ambrose, a 5-foot-11, 195-pound Louisiana native, Vermeil said it’s obvious he can still play. Ambrose’s agent, Kennard McGuire, said three teams have shown “a tremendous amount of interest,” but Ambrose is patient and wants to find the right fit. “He’s been to the Pro Bowl, he’s done extremely well from a contractual standpoint,” McGuire said. “I believe more pressing issue with him is being afforded that opportunity to play with a contender. He feels like this is one of situations he’s been waiting on.” Ambrose will need patience. Vermeil, who’s vacationing in Pennsylvania, said it’s unclear how long the Chiefs will wait to sign a corner. Training camp starts July 28 in River Falls, Wis. He said the Chiefs have no immediate plans to bring Law in for a physical. “I think realistically that we, in the future, will make a move on Ashley,” Vermeil said. “Right now we’ve just decided to be patient and see what happens.” --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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tomahawk kid Drunk in the Neighborhood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Beating the War Drums Casino cash: $10001837	I have a hard time believing that the oldest guy there looked the best in the tryouts. I would be a little upset that THIS guy was our favorite, if we needed him for more than 2-4 games.
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tomahawk kid Drunk in the Neighborhood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Beating the War Drums Casino cash: $10001837	The funny thing about this, is that Chiefs tried out Ambrose in the 1999 offseason and decided to go with Chris Dishman instead. Apparently, Ambrose has improved with age.
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RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	No...No...No...No...No...Not Ashley Ambrose! He should retire and hang up those cleets. The guy is done. He was good 8-10 years ago. But that was then, this is now. The guy is bad now, he plays on a bad defense, and is on the worst pass defense in the league. I remember Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning made him look silly one game. That was a one of the games where Peyton Manning threw for like 6 TD's. Why would the Saints release him? Why would they trade for Mike McKenzie? Cause Ashley Ambrose is not that good. That's all there is to it. What makes this move even worse is, the Saints do have a pretty good defensive line, but, like us, their cover corners we're awful. He could be better than McCleon, I agree with what some of you say, but, not by much. On the other hand, what can we expect from signing a guy for the veteran minimum? These are the type of caliber players we are going to get for cheap I guess.
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