Is TrINT back?

patteeu · 11-21-2005, 07:12 AM

I'm a big fan of Trent Green, but last night seemed kind of scary to me coming on the heels of last week's 4 turnover performance. Trent doesn't deserve the blame for his interception that bounced off of Kennison's shoulder (or for last week's fumble IMO), but he did throw 2 or 3 (or maybe even 4, I lost track) passes straight to Houston defenders and it is only by virtue of their inability to catch that we didn't have some really bad turnovers. Trent had good protection last night, so what's going on?

jjjayb · 11-21-2005, 07:14 AM

He's probably still nervous with all the hits he's been taking. Worried about people coming up behind him and knocking the ball out or just knocking the snot out of him.

Remember the old Dennis Hopper Nike commercials? "Can you hear the footsteps?"

greg63 · 11-21-2005, 07:20 AM

I don't think he ever went away. He's simply been vulnerable lately due to "OL" injury. But, what do I know; I'm a Chiefs homer.

greg63 · 11-21-2005, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb

He's probably still nervous with all the hits he's been taking. Worried about people coming up behind him and knocking the ball out or just knocking the snot out of him.

Remember the old Dennis Hopper Nike commercials? "Can you hear the footsteps?"

I agree.

NewChief · 11-21-2005, 07:26 AM

Some of those throw were bad. That being said, I agree with what one of the commentators said, "It's like the Texans are in the Chiefs huddle." They were jumping the routes and spying the routes like they knew exactly where the ball was going on some of those plays. Trent doesn't need to throw those, but Al's playcalling in the passing game has become a little predictable.

greg63 · 11-21-2005, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

Some of those throw were bad. That being said, I agree with what one of the commentators said, "It's like the Texans are in the Chiefs huddle." They were jumping the routes and spying the routes like they knew exactly where the ball was going on some of those plays. Trent doesn't need to throw those, but Al's playcalling in the passing game has become a little predictable.

True, also, I have a hard time laying the pick at Green’s feet.

**the Talking Can** · 11-21-2005, 07:32 AM

Trent was pretty shaky at times...I think all the hits have gotten to him.

But still, given time, he can pick most D's apart.

We need a QBOTF ASAP though...Green will be 36 next year.

jspchief · 11-21-2005, 07:35 AM

Green's accuracy has been bad pretty much all year, it's not like this is something new. He's throwing at wide open guys and making them work to catch the ball. A lot of throws at their feet, over their heads, and behind them.

I don't really know what the problem is, I just know I wish he would figure it out.

CrazyHorse · 11-21-2005, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm a big fan of Trent Green, but last night seemed kind of scary to me coming on the heels of last week's 4 turnover performance. Trent doesn't deserve the blame for his interception that bounced off of Kennison's shoulder (or for last week's fumble IMO), but he did throw 2 or 3 (or maybe even 4, I lost track) passes straight to Houston defenders and it is only by virtue of their inability to catch that we didn't have some really bad turnovers. Trent had good protection last night, so what's going on?

Dont forget, Green doen't have the luxury of being able to audible out of a play. They run the play as it is called. That said, Green has been off on a few throws this year. I am not so concerned with his decisions, as much as I am his accuracy/timing so far this year.

He's been off.

NewChief · 11-21-2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Trent was pretty shaky at times...I think all the hits have gotten to him.

I agree. Watching the game last night, I kept saying that he seems to lack confidence. Confidence in his oline, confidence in his receivers, confidence in his offensive coordinator's playcalling, and confidence in himself. I think it's more mental than anything. As the game went on and he gained confidence that he wasn't going to get creamed, his accuracy improved.

patteeu · 11-21-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Trent was pretty shaky at times...I think all the hits have gotten to him.

But still, given time, he can pick most D's apart.

We need a QBOTF ASAP though...Green will be 36 next year.

I agree an all counts. When I saw the graphic showing that Trent Green is the 3rd oldest starting QB in the league, it really got my attention.

**the Talking Can** · 11-21-2005, 07:46 AM

I thought his whole "process" looked a little slow - read, recognize, throw.

Age or injury? or myth?

I dunno.

Idahored · 11-21-2005, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

I agree. Watching the game last night, I kept saying that he seems to lack confidence. Confidence in his oline, confidence in his receivers, confidence in his offensive coordinator's playcalling, and confidence in himself. I think it's more mental than anything. As the game went on and he gained confidence that he wasn't going to get creamed, his accuracy improved.

This is exactly what I thought. When Roaf was back in the lineup he seemed to gain confidence also and threw the ball better.
Hopefully we can stop the rush next week againt NE, but without Roaf, I'm not counting on it.

kregger · 11-21-2005, 08:28 AM

With LJ running like he is, Trent has nooooo excuse for not being able to play action any team to death.
He has to step up and hit the open guy. The pass
to Kennison(1st TD) was a thing of beauty. All set up by LJ's ability to freeze the LBs.

**Bob Dole** · 11-21-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Dont forget, Green doen't have the luxury of being able to audible out of a play.

Which ranks right up there with "understanding how women think" in the list of life's little mysteries.

11-21-2005, 07:12 AM
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	Is TrINT back? I'm a big fan of Trent Green, but last night seemed kind of scary to me coming on the heels of last week's 4 turnover performance. Trent doesn't deserve the blame for his interception that bounced off of Kennison's shoulder (or for last week's fumble IMO), but he did throw 2 or 3 (or maybe even 4, I lost track) passes straight to Houston defenders and it is only by virtue of their inability to catch that we didn't have some really bad turnovers. Trent had good protection last night, so what's going on?
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11-21-2005, 07:14 AM	#2
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11-21-2005, 07:20 AM	#3
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NewChief In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Fayetteville, AR Casino cash: $7140204	Some of those throw were bad. That being said, I agree with what one of the commentators said, "It's like the Texans are in the Chiefs huddle." They were jumping the routes and spying the routes like they knew exactly where the ball was going on some of those plays. Trent doesn't need to throw those, but Al's playcalling in the passing game has become a little predictable. __________________ In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. - H. L. Mencken
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11-21-2005, 07:32 AM	#7
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9152208	Trent was pretty shaky at times...I think all the hits have gotten to him. But still, given time, he can pick most D's apart. We need a QBOTF ASAP though...Green will be 36 next year. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Green's accuracy has been bad pretty much all year, it's not like this is something new. He's throwing at wide open guys and making them work to catch the ball. A lot of throws at their feet, over their heads, and behind them. I don't really know what the problem is, I just know I wish he would figure it out. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9152208	I thought his whole "process" looked a little slow - read, recognize, throw. Age or injury? or myth? I dunno. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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11-21-2005, 08:28 AM	#14
kregger thick as a brick Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: alpha centauri Casino cash: $10004925	With LJ running like he is, Trent has nooooo excuse for not being able to play action any team to death. He has to step up and hit the open guy. The pass to Kennison(1st TD) was a thing of beauty. All set up by LJ's ability to freeze the LBs.
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