At 36, Chiefs' Roaf has earned a few days off

**Bob Dole** · 05-10-2006, 05:23 AM

All-Pro to get breaks before, during season

It's not as though he wants to be maligned as Willie Loaf, but Chiefs left tackle Willie Roaf has about 36 good reasons to lobby for extra days off during his 14th NFL season this year.
"Last year I practiced only once a day (during training camp), but it was always in full pads, and I probably should have backed off some," Roaf said. "Early in the season I was hurting, and that led to the hamstring problems."

Just to recap, Roaf's aching hamstring * a muscle pull that prevented the then-35-year-old 10-time Pro Bowl player from using leverage in his lower body * also hamstrung the Kansas City offense.

Roaf was inactive in six games and missed most of a seventh after going down in the second series of the season opener. The Chiefs lost three games in which Roaf didn't play, and a fourth in San Diego when he started but couldn't finish. Pass protection was a factor in each of the losses as still-young tackle Jordan Black struggled at Roaf's left tackle spot.

Now 36 and determined to play one last season after putting aside the retirement thoughts that arose naturally during 2005, Willie Roaf looks forward to a 2006 campaign under a new coach who is determined to keep him as healthy as possible.

"Herman Edwards has told us that he takes care of his big guys," Roaf said. "His philosophy is that he doesn't have to worry about getting me and Will (Shields) ready like he does some of his young guys.

"He said not to worry, that his practices would be set up to keep guys fresh for Sunday. He said that there would be days when some big guys wouldn't do anything."

Don't misunderstand. Edwards' practices are known to be intense, but likely shorter than the old-school sessions of Dick Vermeil that sometimes stretched to 2 1/2 hours.

And while Vermeil often did not ask older players such as Roaf, Shields (who will be 35 in September) and John Browning to practice on Wednesdays and occasional Thursdays, Edwards seems to sense that 11-time Pro Bowlers like Roaf and Shields know how to get ready for Sundays without the wear and tear of midweek workouts.

It's an approach that appeals to older players who understand that staying available is as important as being prepared.

Edwards is known, for instance, to have let veteran cornerback Ty Law * making a comeback last year from a major foot injury * practice on a schedule some Jets saw as overly generous. Law, however, responded with a 10-interception season, tied for the best in the AFC.

Law's appreciation of Edwards' approach might be the biggest recruiting tool the Chiefs have in their attempts to secure Law for their left cornerback spot. Law's salary demands, however, remain the biggest stumbling block.

But Edwards' philosophy was a factor in the decision by both Roaf and Shields to delay the retirement they have certainly earned.

So, too, was the idea that the window of opportunity for a productive but aging Kansas City offense might remain open for one more season.

"The window has already closed for some of the guys who were the corps of this offense even before I got here," Roaf lamented. "Priest Holmes * we don't know if he's coming back. Tony Richardson is gone (via free agency to Minnesota), and he was a big part of everything that happened here.

"We've got to make the playoffs now and give ourselves a chance."

Roaf also was excited by the elevation of his offensive line coach, Mike Solari, to the offensive coordinator position opened by the departure of Al Saunders to Washington. The architect of the vaunted Chiefs ground attack that operated equally well with Holmes and Larry Johnson, Roaf and his fellow linemen feel they now have a kindred spirit in charge of the offense.

"I think it's a good choice," Roaf said. "He's had a lot to do with our running game all these years. He set up our short-yard and goal-line package. And I know he's working hard to get better in the passing game, where coach Saunders was strongest.

"He understand the passing game, I know that, but I think we may be more run-oriented than in the past. And that will help when we get up on teams and go to a four-minute (game-killing) offense with Larry Johnson running the ball."

Sourse

htismaqe · 05-10-2006, 07:05 AM

Why would anybody consider him "Willie Loaf"?

He's a 14-year vet on his way to the HoF and he was hurt early last year because he didn't take it easy enough.

He NEEDS this and anybody that thinks otherwise is an idiot.

KCTitus · 05-10-2006, 07:09 AM

Give him as much rest as he needs...keep him ready for Sunday to protect Green's blind side.

**KcMizzou** · 05-10-2006, 07:09 AM

Yeah, the man's paid his dues, and he knows what's best for his body. Let him do whatever he thinks is right.

milkman · 05-10-2006, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Why would anybody consider him "Willie Loaf"?

He's a 14-year vet on his way to the HoF and he was hurt early last year because he didn't take it easy enough.

He NEEDS this and anybody that thinks otherwise is an idiot.

I'm relatively certain we'll see a couple of idiots chime in on this.

**Rain Man** · 05-10-2006, 08:10 AM

Let Willie and Will do whatever they want, as long as they're Willie and Will on Sundays.

Kerberos · 05-10-2006, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideWinder

I'm relatively certain we'll see a couple of idiots chime in on this.

Yea......where is Taco ??

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StcChief · 05-10-2006, 08:15 AM

Generous practice sessions for them makes complete sense...They earned it.

Law dog should see it that way too.
Now this is a waiting stalling game with Law, IMO.
To drive his price down.

sedated · 05-10-2006, 09:40 AM

This offense knows what they are doing.

Just get Green's timing down with the WRs, and break in a new FB, and let the others rest.

whoaskew · 05-10-2006, 10:48 AM

Fine with me. Let them rest as much as they need. Their backups need as much practice with the first team as possible anyway. Especially if Willie and Will retire next year, and even more so if an injury forces either backup into a starting role this year.

BIG_DADDY · 05-10-2006, 10:51 AM

Don't kill your old guys. Good decision.

jspchief · 05-10-2006, 12:25 PM

I can't really speak for Roaf, but IMO Will Shields took about half a season to get into his regular playing form. I don't know how much of it had to do with light practices, but I'll admit it's a concern for me.

FAX · 05-10-2006, 12:27 PM

I trust the wills.

I've got to believe that they want to shove Larry Johnson up some tails this year. I have no problem, whatsoever, in allowing them to set their own schedule within limits. Losing Roaf to that hamstring last year cost us the playoffs.

FAX

Inspector · 05-10-2006, 01:16 PM

Yeah....Roaf is probably the best judge for what Roaf should do to be at his peak. I trust his judgement

InChiefsHeaven · 05-10-2006, 01:36 PM

Will x 2 know what they want and they certainly don't need to be motivated. The fact that they are willing to come back shows how badly they want to win and how much they believe that they can go a long way this season. I got no problem with them doing it on their own terms, physically anyway.

05-10-2006, 05:23 AM
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $-1304563	At 36, Chiefs' Roaf has earned a few days off All-Pro to get breaks before, during season It's not as though he wants to be maligned as Willie Loaf, but Chiefs left tackle Willie Roaf has about 36 good reasons to lobby for extra days off during his 14th NFL season this year. "Last year I practiced only once a day (during training camp), but it was always in full pads, and I probably should have backed off some," Roaf said. "Early in the season I was hurting, and that led to the hamstring problems." Just to recap, Roaf's aching hamstring * a muscle pull that prevented the then-35-year-old 10-time Pro Bowl player from using leverage in his lower body * also hamstrung the Kansas City offense. Roaf was inactive in six games and missed most of a seventh after going down in the second series of the season opener. The Chiefs lost three games in which Roaf didn't play, and a fourth in San Diego when he started but couldn't finish. Pass protection was a factor in each of the losses as still-young tackle Jordan Black struggled at Roaf's left tackle spot. Now 36 and determined to play one last season after putting aside the retirement thoughts that arose naturally during 2005, Willie Roaf looks forward to a 2006 campaign under a new coach who is determined to keep him as healthy as possible. "Herman Edwards has told us that he takes care of his big guys," Roaf said. "His philosophy is that he doesn't have to worry about getting me and Will (Shields) ready like he does some of his young guys. "He said not to worry, that his practices would be set up to keep guys fresh for Sunday. He said that there would be days when some big guys wouldn't do anything." Don't misunderstand. Edwards' practices are known to be intense, but likely shorter than the old-school sessions of Dick Vermeil that sometimes stretched to 2 1/2 hours. And while Vermeil often did not ask older players such as Roaf, Shields (who will be 35 in September) and John Browning to practice on Wednesdays and occasional Thursdays, Edwards seems to sense that 11-time Pro Bowlers like Roaf and Shields know how to get ready for Sundays without the wear and tear of midweek workouts. It's an approach that appeals to older players who understand that staying available is as important as being prepared. Edwards is known, for instance, to have let veteran cornerback Ty Law * making a comeback last year from a major foot injury * practice on a schedule some Jets saw as overly generous. Law, however, responded with a 10-interception season, tied for the best in the AFC. Law's appreciation of Edwards' approach might be the biggest recruiting tool the Chiefs have in their attempts to secure Law for their left cornerback spot. Law's salary demands, however, remain the biggest stumbling block. But Edwards' philosophy was a factor in the decision by both Roaf and Shields to delay the retirement they have certainly earned. So, too, was the idea that the window of opportunity for a productive but aging Kansas City offense might remain open for one more season. "The window has already closed for some of the guys who were the corps of this offense even before I got here," Roaf lamented. "Priest Holmes * we don't know if he's coming back. Tony Richardson is gone (via free agency to Minnesota), and he was a big part of everything that happened here. "We've got to make the playoffs now and give ourselves a chance." Roaf also was excited by the elevation of his offensive line coach, Mike Solari, to the offensive coordinator position opened by the departure of Al Saunders to Washington. The architect of the vaunted Chiefs ground attack that operated equally well with Holmes and Larry Johnson, Roaf and his fellow linemen feel they now have a kindred spirit in charge of the offense. "I think it's a good choice," Roaf said. "He's had a lot to do with our running game all these years. He set up our short-yard and goal-line package. And I know he's working hard to get better in the passing game, where coach Saunders was strongest. "He understand the passing game, I know that, but I think we may be more run-oriented than in the past. And that will help when we get up on teams and go to a four-minute (game-killing) offense with Larry Johnson running the ball." Sourse
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