Apparently no one will ever recover an onside kick again

Mecca · 08-07-2006, 09:26 PM

I was reading through some things and came across this gem of a rules change.......

There's a new rule this year however, that doesn't allow the kicking team to completely load up on one side of the ball. In the past you could put all 10 players besides the kicker on one side of the formation. The new rule this year states that a team must have at least four players on either side of the ball on kickoffs.

kcjayhawks5 · 08-07-2006, 09:27 PM

WE'RE DOOMED!!

JBucc · 08-07-2006, 09:29 PM

Does it really matter? For every guy the kicking team puts on one side the recieving team has put at least that many on that side to protect from any trickery, so they would have equal guys on each side anyway(minus the kicker of course). This may make it less of a random jumble of people and more about execution and good hands.

tk13 · 08-07-2006, 09:29 PM

I wonder why they did that. I mean, really, the receiving team has to line up according to the formation so everybody's accounted for... so I think you could still try onside kicks, it just might be a little different.

Eleazar · 08-07-2006, 09:30 PM

Didn't there already have to be people on the other side of the kicker?

chief52 · 08-07-2006, 09:31 PM

Teams have not always loaded up one side. I really do not think it will change the odds of the kicking team covering the kick all that much. I mean, recovering an on side kick is supposed to be a very rare thing to do and will remain so. It is only done out of desperation.

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-07-2006, 09:33 PM

I don't like this change.

It's not a huge effect, but I like the jumble of players fighting for the ball. It's exciting.

Why change?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-07-2006, 09:34 PM

I forgot that they worked on onside kicks in the PM practice today....

Can't remember how many were behind Tynes....

Page made a spectacular leaping recovery during one attempt.....

Whoohoo......

08-07-2006, 09:36 PM

Nice find. I hadn't heard that yet.

I presume the rules change was to make a kicking team recovery more about skills and execution and less about dumb luck.

Hydrae · 08-07-2006, 09:50 PM

Just curious, anyone got a link to the rules or at least the rule changes?

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-07-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

Just curious, anyone got a link to the rules or at least the rule changes?

Found a few for ya.

2006:

End zone celebrations are more restricted. Players cannot celebrate by using any type of prop, or do any act in which they are on the ground. Players may still spike, spin the ball, or dunk it over the goal posts. Dancing in the end zone is also permitted as long as it is not a prolonged or group celebration

Defenders are prohibited from hitting a passer in the knee or below unless they are blocked into him. This rule was enacted in response to the previous season's injuries to Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer, Pittsburgh Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Brian Griese.

Down-by-contact calls can now be reviewed by instant replay to determine if a player fumbled the ball before he was down, and who recovered it. Previously, these plays could not be reversed once officials blew the whistle.

The "horse-collar tackle" rule enacted during the previous 2005 season is expanded. Players are now prohibited from tackling a ball carrier from the rear by tugging inside his jersey. Previously, it was only illegal if the tackler's hand got inside the player's shoulder pads.
To reduce injuries, defensive players cannot line up directly over the long snapper during field goal and extra point attempts.

JBucc · 08-07-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

Just curious, anyone got a link to the rules or at least the rule changes?

Basically you can't tackle anyone from the back and if you look at the QB wrong it's a personal foul.

hypersensitiveZO6 · 08-07-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

Basically you can't tackle anyone from the back and if you look at the QB wrong it's a personal foul.

yep.

**Bob Dole** · 08-07-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chief52

It is only done out of desperation.

Or if you're the Eagles kicking off to open the game.

Mecca · 08-07-2006, 10:10 PM

The QB's should just wear flags at this point.....can't go high, can't go low, where exactly are you suppose to hit them?

Every rule change the NFL makes is about offense, eventually there is going to be no defense in the league. They make tackle rules more strict all the time.

08-07-2006, 09:26 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2257050	Apparently no one will ever recover an onside kick again I was reading through some things and came across this gem of a rules change....... There's a new rule this year however, that doesn't allow the kicking team to completely load up on one side of the ball. In the past you could put all 10 players besides the kicker on one side of the formation. The new rule this year states that a team must have at least four players on either side of the ball on kickoffs.
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08-07-2006, 09:27 PM	#2
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08-07-2006, 09:29 PM	#3
JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $10004952	Does it really matter? For every guy the kicking team puts on one side the recieving team has put at least that many on that side to protect from any trickery, so they would have equal guys on each side anyway(minus the kicker of course). This may make it less of a random jumble of people and more about execution and good hands.
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08-07-2006, 09:29 PM	#4
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1642500	I wonder why they did that. I mean, really, the receiving team has to line up according to the formation so everybody's accounted for... so I think you could still try onside kicks, it just might be a little different.
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08-07-2006, 09:31 PM	#6
chief52 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NoCal Casino cash: $9835260	Teams have not always loaded up one side. I really do not think it will change the odds of the kicking team covering the kick all that much. I mean, recovering an on side kick is supposed to be a very rare thing to do and will remain so. It is only done out of desperation.
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08-07-2006, 09:34 PM	#8
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4761115	I forgot that they worked on onside kicks in the PM practice today.... Can't remember how many were behind Tynes.... Page made a spectacular leaping recovery during one attempt..... Whoohoo......
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08-07-2006, 09:36 PM	#9
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Hydrae Sandbox: Leander Lasercats Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin, Tx Casino cash: $1977000	Just curious, anyone got a link to the rules or at least the rule changes?
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08-07-2006, 10:10 PM	#15
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2257050	The QB's should just wear flags at this point.....can't go high, can't go low, where exactly are you suppose to hit them? Every rule change the NFL makes is about offense, eventually there is going to be no defense in the league. They make tackle rules more strict all the time.
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