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Old 12-17-2006, 10:12 AM  
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Hindsight 20/20: Was it a mistake to bench Huard?

I know. I know. Huard had a bad game at Miami. But in 2001 Brady came off a so-so game vs St.Louis as the Patriots fell to 5-5, but Belichick saw the whole picture, that the Patriots had turned around a 0-2 start by going 5-3 under Brady.

there are good arguments for either side, but i think, since Green has only really had one good game, and last week he stunk to high heaven, its a valid question. Would Huard have had 2 picks, a fumble, and a bunch of sacks?

He wasnt the passer Green is, but he managed the game better and helped the defense.

Just throwing it out there...
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:19 AM   #2
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I dont think so. I think if anything, the rest of the team picked up their play with Damon at the helm. When Trent got back, maybe a lot of them let off the gas thinking he could just pick up the slack.

The one thing that Trent could take a pointer from Huard on though, is getting that ball outta there QUICK, when the backfoot hits on the 3rd or 5th step, wing it to the open guy. If nobodys open, then ground it in front of the nearest guy or sail it outta bounds.

Holding it too long is my only beef with Trent.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:23 AM   #3
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No. Huard got lucky and faced a lot of bad defenses. He had hit his ceiling.

People are overreacting to one bad game. Brady had a bad game last week, too.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:25 AM   #4
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There is a reason Trent has been a starting pro bowl QB and ranked in the top 3 for the last 5 years.

There is a reason that Huard has been a backup QB for 10+ years in the NFL.....

People on this board, I would say 99.9% didnt even want Huard on the roster openind day. Now question wether he should be a starter or not?

Fickle, very fickle...
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:36 AM   #5
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No. He had a horrible game against Miami, did nothing against Denver and was part of that loss to the Steelers...

Seriously, as the OL this team goes. When we start playing musical Lineman, the QB looks worse, the running game doesn't look as smooth...
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:39 AM   #6
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we were winning with huard then green came in and has thrown 5 picks. You tell me.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:42 AM   #7
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Yeah, because a horrid game plan and play calling had nothing to do with the Ravens loss.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:54 AM   #8
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:08 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Believer
Hindsight 20/20: Was it a mistake to bench Huard?...

OH NO ! ARE YOU KIDDING ME, ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME .... You Play To Win The Game, OK. You use your best players....... Herm Edwards.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:09 AM   #10
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When you hand it off to the same RB on 1st and 2nd down the majority of the time it's not fair for any QB to have to face 3rd and 8 all the time.

The person to blame is the guy doing the play calling.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:13 AM   #11
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It's assinine to compare Trent to Damon. Damon did an excellent job as a fill in QB while Trent was hurt. But he's no Pro Bowl QB like Trent. I blame most of Trent's struggles on the offensive coordinator. Everytime he finally gets to throw, the defenses know exactly where it's going.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:17 AM   #12
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:18 AM   #13
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but was Green that great against Oakland and Denver? Before the Miami game, didnt Huard have huge games against SD,Seattle, and at St.Louis?

And I do think how you manage the game affects the defense. Make mistakes, the defense has to be on the field more. Play mistake free, you have sustained drives, the D doesnt have to do as much.
the offense helps the defense.
The Patriots have driven this home to their players, like Huard, for years, the best example being SB 36. And Belichek and Parcells used it in SB 25 in the Giants win over Buffalo. Making your offense part of the defensive strategy.
I think this is what Edwards wants to do here, and in a lot of ways Huard fits into that more than Green.
It was the same thing in New England. Bledsoe was the Pro Bowl guy, the one with the stats, the pure passer. But even in 2001 Brady knew how to manage the game better, while still making the throws he had to when it counts.
Its not about stats, its about winning.

Can you tell Im from New England originally? Anyway, theres a reason the Marinos, the Mannings, the Bledoes dont win titles while the Montana's, Aikmans,Bradys, Roethlisburgers, and even the lesser QB's who have won do.
its not about stats and throwing the ball around.

I think they would have beaten Oakland and Denver with Huard. And had a better shot against the Ravens.

Just my opinion. I could be persuaded.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:18 AM   #14
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But to answer this thread, yes, it was a mistake.

Green has been sacked 13 times this season in 115 pass attempts.

Huard was sacked 16 times in 241 pass attempts.

Huard threw 1 INT in 241 pass attempts.
Green has thrown 5 INT's in 115 pass attempts.

At some point we have to hold Green accountable as fans, and I do...the reason we're not going to the playoffs this year is because Herm benched Huard.

Sorry.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:19 AM   #15
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Believer, I totally agree and have been saying the same thing for weeks.

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