For those that want to draft a WR in the first round....

chop · 04-13-2007, 07:46 AM

Doesn't look like it will happen.

http://www.kansascity.com/160/story/69032.html

Chiefs won’t get grabby

Team doesn’t place a high priority on wide receivers in the upcoming NFL draft.

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

Herm Edwards was talking recently about the players who will catch passes for the Chiefs next season. He took care to mention two young wide receivers, Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon, even though they had three receptions between them as rookies last season.
“We’ve got two young guys, and I want to see whether they can play or not,” Edwards said. “I know one thing: We don’t cover them in practice very well.”
Is it just draft talk, designed to convince the NFL’s 31 other teams the Chiefs have no intention of selecting a receiver in the upcoming player lottery?
Perhaps. But know two things. First, Edwards isn’t big, even in the days leading to the draft, on talking up prospects he doesn’t have expectations for.
The other is that the Chiefs don’t view improving the position as a top priority, certainly not as much as their fans do. They made no move in free-agency to sign a wide receiver.
The only top wide receiver known to be visiting with the Chiefs next week, when they intend to bring up to 30 draft prospects to Arrowhead Stadium, is Robert Meachem of Tennessee.
Among the top receivers not scheduled to visit are Sidney Rice of South Carolina, Steve Smith of USC, Dwayne Bowe and Craig Davis of LSU, Paul Williams of Fresno State and Yamon Figurs of Kansas State.
While this is insignificant taken alone, it is another indication the Chiefs believe they have bigger positional priorities in the draft, such as cornerback and defensive tackle.
The Chiefs could use another wide receiver and will probably select at least one. They may be content to wait until later in the draft to do it.
“When you draft a receiver in the first round, a lot of times it’s buyer beware,” Edwards said. “For some reason, it takes them a while. Most rookie receivers don’t come in and light it up their first year. They struggle. The dynamics have changed for those guys from college to the NFL. You have to understand that when you draft a receiver in the first round. A lot of them don’t play their first year and even when they play, they don’t live up to expectations.
“You can find guys to help you at wide receiver later in the draft, definitely.”
Unless a draft pick pushes his way into the playing rotation, starters Eddie Kennison and Samie Parker along with Webb and Hannon will be the top wide receivers next season.
The Chiefs are trying to trade Dante Hall, who hasn’t given them what they hoped as either a slot receiver or kick returner in recent seasons. He may be released if he isn’t traded.
The Chiefs are counting on dramatic improvement from Webb, a sixth-round pick last year, and Hannon, who wasn’t drafted. Webb is bigger and more physical, and Hannon is faster but must get stronger.
“They’ve got some talent,” Edwards said. “They have enough that they’ve earned the opportunity to try to play. That’s what we’ve emphasized. We’re trying to create competition.
“It’s just a matter of getting to the details of what we’re trying to do. Now they know what we want from them. They’re not just trying to figure out what to do. ”
To Webb and Hannon, it’s a gift that the Chiefs haven’t added a wide receiver, at least so far.
“That’s the coach’s decision,” Webb said. “I don’t know what they’re thinking. All I can do is work on Jeff Webb and try to be a good player.
“Hannon and I are doing our jobs right now. We’re working extra hours when it comes time to lift weights and (spending) extra hours out on the practice field with Brodie (Croyle).”
Kennison has been a regular at the offseason workouts since they began almost two weeks ago. He recently turned 34, an advanced age for a wide receiver.
But Kennison keeps himself in good physical condition. His streak of two straight 1,000-yard seasons was ended last year, but that had more to do with problems elsewhere in the Chiefs’ passing game than with any drop-off in Kennison’s play.
“I’m not going to let anybody else determine when I retire from this game,” he said. “I want to retire when I’m ready. And I’m not ready.
“I’m better at taking care of myself: diet, exercise, doing the things that are right all the time. I’m not a guy that hangs out in the nightspots. I’m not a drinker. I keep finding ways to do things better. The workouts continue to get better for me. It makes things easier. That’s my whole deal.”

Red Dawg · 04-13-2007, 07:56 AM

We will be taking a corner or pass rusher. I don't get the impression that Herm is trying keep our pick a secret.

jiveturkey · 04-13-2007, 07:57 AM

I don't like the looks of DT at 23 unless Branch somehow drops, which is unlikely.

CB might not be bad at all though.

I would still like to see some youth added to the OL but that can be addressed later in the draft.

JBucc · 04-13-2007, 07:58 AM

I won't say we have to take a receiver in the first but if we don't take one in the first three I'll be disappointed.

eazyb81 · 04-13-2007, 07:58 AM

Can anyone say smokescreen?

Hopefully Herm isn't stupid enough to show his hand before draft day.

chop · 04-13-2007, 07:59 AM

I was watching a a draft special on ESPN last night and they said that the DT position is weak this year but the DE position is strong.

chop · 04-13-2007, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Can anyone say smokescreen?

Hopefully Herm isn't stupid enough to show his hand before draft day.

Herm doesn't strike me as a poker player.

jiveturkey · 04-13-2007, 08:01 AM

I wonder if they'll reach for a CB. Revis, Ross or Houston could still be sitting there at 23 and provide good value at that spot.

Eric Wright could be the reach target.

JBucc · 04-13-2007, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop

I was watching a a draft special on ESPN last night and they said that the DT position is weak this year but the DE position is strong.

So we're gonna draft a DE, then trade Jared to Carolina for Jenkins and a 2nd. I see right through you Herm!

**HemiEd** · 04-13-2007, 08:03 AM

We don't need no stinking WRs to run Herm Edwards "Offense."

We only need defensive players, period.

Damn I miss Vermeil.

chop · 04-13-2007, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

We don't need no stinking WRs to run Herm Edwards "Offense."

We only need defensive players, period.

Damn I miss Vermeil.

If Webb and Hannon are as good as Herm thinks they are or can be then we are set a WR this year. They can concentrate on rebuilding the O-Line and D-Line and get younger at the CB positions.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-13-2007, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiveturkey

I wonder if they'll reach for a CB. Revis, Ross or Houston could still be sitting there at 23 and provide good value at that spot.

Eric Wright could be the reach target.

or trading down

**Bowser** · 04-13-2007, 08:07 AM

So it's a lock. We take a receiver.

I want to see the nuclear blast of a meltdown if we pass on Jarrett, Meachem, and/or Bowe. Our luck, all three will be sitting there, and we'll take some shitass tackle, or some such.

eazyb81 · 04-13-2007, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiveturkey

I wonder if they'll reach for a CB. Revis, Ross or Houston could still be sitting there at 23 and provide good value at that spot.

Eric Wright could be the reach target.

I'm a big fan of Houston, Revis, and Wright (not so much Ross), but is CB such a huge need that we spend a 1st round pick on it? It seems like you can be successful using the Cover 2 without having elite CBs.

chagrin · 04-13-2007, 08:09 AM

I don't recall doing anything good with WR's on his JETS teams, his evaluation of WR's I would say, is not his strong point.

04-13-2007, 07:46 AM
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $884270	For those that want to draft a WR in the first round.... Doesn't look like it will happen. http://www.kansascity.com/160/story/69032.html Chiefs won’t get grabby Team doesn’t place a high priority on wide receivers in the upcoming NFL draft. By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Herm Edwards was talking recently about the players who will catch passes for the Chiefs next season. He took care to mention two young wide receivers, Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon, even though they had three receptions between them as rookies last season. “We’ve got two young guys, and I want to see whether they can play or not,” Edwards said. “I know one thing: We don’t cover them in practice very well.” Is it just draft talk, designed to convince the NFL’s 31 other teams the Chiefs have no intention of selecting a receiver in the upcoming player lottery? Perhaps. But know two things. First, Edwards isn’t big, even in the days leading to the draft, on talking up prospects he doesn’t have expectations for. The other is that the Chiefs don’t view improving the position as a top priority, certainly not as much as their fans do. They made no move in free-agency to sign a wide receiver. The only top wide receiver known to be visiting with the Chiefs next week, when they intend to bring up to 30 draft prospects to Arrowhead Stadium, is Robert Meachem of Tennessee. Among the top receivers not scheduled to visit are Sidney Rice of South Carolina, Steve Smith of USC, Dwayne Bowe and Craig Davis of LSU, Paul Williams of Fresno State and Yamon Figurs of Kansas State. While this is insignificant taken alone, it is another indication the Chiefs believe they have bigger positional priorities in the draft, such as cornerback and defensive tackle. The Chiefs could use another wide receiver and will probably select at least one. They may be content to wait until later in the draft to do it. “When you draft a receiver in the first round, a lot of times it’s buyer beware,” Edwards said. “For some reason, it takes them a while. Most rookie receivers don’t come in and light it up their first year. They struggle. The dynamics have changed for those guys from college to the NFL. You have to understand that when you draft a receiver in the first round. A lot of them don’t play their first year and even when they play, they don’t live up to expectations. “You can find guys to help you at wide receiver later in the draft, definitely.” Unless a draft pick pushes his way into the playing rotation, starters Eddie Kennison and Samie Parker along with Webb and Hannon will be the top wide receivers next season. The Chiefs are trying to trade Dante Hall, who hasn’t given them what they hoped as either a slot receiver or kick returner in recent seasons. He may be released if he isn’t traded. The Chiefs are counting on dramatic improvement from Webb, a sixth-round pick last year, and Hannon, who wasn’t drafted. Webb is bigger and more physical, and Hannon is faster but must get stronger. “They’ve got some talent,” Edwards said. “They have enough that they’ve earned the opportunity to try to play. That’s what we’ve emphasized. We’re trying to create competition. “It’s just a matter of getting to the details of what we’re trying to do. Now they know what we want from them. They’re not just trying to figure out what to do. ” To Webb and Hannon, it’s a gift that the Chiefs haven’t added a wide receiver, at least so far. “That’s the coach’s decision,” Webb said. “I don’t know what they’re thinking. All I can do is work on Jeff Webb and try to be a good player. “Hannon and I are doing our jobs right now. We’re working extra hours when it comes time to lift weights and (spending) extra hours out on the practice field with Brodie (Croyle).” Kennison has been a regular at the offseason workouts since they began almost two weeks ago. He recently turned 34, an advanced age for a wide receiver. But Kennison keeps himself in good physical condition. His streak of two straight 1,000-yard seasons was ended last year, but that had more to do with problems elsewhere in the Chiefs’ passing game than with any drop-off in Kennison’s play. “I’m not going to let anybody else determine when I retire from this game,” he said. “I want to retire when I’m ready. And I’m not ready. “I’m better at taking care of myself: diet, exercise, doing the things that are right all the time. I’m not a guy that hangs out in the nightspots. I’m not a drinker. I keep finding ways to do things better. The workouts continue to get better for me. It makes things easier. That’s my whole deal.”
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04-13-2007, 07:56 AM	#2
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04-13-2007, 07:57 AM	#3
jiveturkey Captain Kick Ass Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $9305197	I don't like the looks of DT at 23 unless Branch somehow drops, which is unlikely. CB might not be bad at all though. I would still like to see some youth added to the OL but that can be addressed later in the draft.
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04-13-2007, 07:59 AM	#6
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jiveturkey Captain Kick Ass Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $9305197	I wonder if they'll reach for a CB. Revis, Ross or Houston could still be sitting there at 23 and provide good value at that spot. Eric Wright could be the reach target.
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