A proposed NFL rules change

**Rain Man** · 09-23-2007, 10:56 PM

You know what I hate?

I hate that any time there's a long kick return, the first reaction of every knowledgeable fan is to look for a penalty flag. I think it taints the excitement of one of the game's most exciting plays.

So I propose this:

On kickoffs and punts, the kicking team gets to add a 12th man. In return, there will be no more penalties called for blocking in the back (above the waist - below the waist will still count) or for holding. All other penalties will be called as normal.

What say ye? Poll forthcoming, unless it gets called back for a block in the back.

KurtCobain · 09-23-2007, 11:06 PM

Solid idea.

Hootie · 09-23-2007, 11:07 PM

a block in the back is a penalty because it is dangerous...

KurtCobain · 09-23-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

a block in the back is a penalty because it is dangerous...

So?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-23-2007, 11:09 PM

I'm just thinking how easy it would be for teams to score with holding completely legalized.

Probably 25% of all kicks would go to the house if this happened.

Hootie · 09-23-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm just thinking how easy it would be for teams to score with holding completely legalized.

Probably 25% of all kicks would go to the house if this happened.

That's a bit extreme...

runnercyclist · 09-23-2007, 11:09 PM

NEver happen.

The Zebs need to use better judgement in airing their laundry. It should be blatant and effect the outcome of the play, otherwise don't throw the flag.

L.A. Chieffan · 09-23-2007, 11:12 PM

What do think this is? The Arena League?

mcan · 09-23-2007, 11:43 PM

25% is probably conservative. You put your ten best tacklers on the field and your fastest guy. Fastest guy gets the ball. Everybody else (except one guy and the kicker) gets tackled. Touchdown every time.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2007, 12:15 AM

No, I think a system that is something like a "delayed" call is in order. Individual official spots a foul, throws a flag to mark infraction. If it's decided that the foul had no bearing on the outcome of the play in question, flag is pocketed. If it has an effect, penalty stands.

mcan · 09-24-2007, 01:04 AM

How about players just not hit people in the back? Holding happens a lot and subsequently a lot of holding gets called and still a ton more goes unnoticed or unpenalized. But just one good block in the back can completely spring a return man. They're going to call it every time they see it, regardless of where it happens.

StcChief · 09-24-2007, 05:23 AM

Block in the back is dangerous to player.

Braincase · 09-24-2007, 05:48 AM

Why not allow the ball carrier to use a single-shot derringer? Small calibre, of course. Certainly change the definition of "Taking one for the team."

**penguinz** · 09-24-2007, 06:38 AM

Why not just make it so that if the flag is on a player that has no effect on the play then it is ignored.

cadmonkey · 09-24-2007, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

Why not just make it so that if the flag is on a player that has no effect on the play then it is ignored.

I like that idea. Call the hold if you see it happen, but get together and talk about weather or not it should stand. There are to many calls that happen 30 yards from the play.

View Poll Results: Would you support the following rules change?
Heck, yeah. Let the players play, and let the long returns stand.	9	29.03%
Golly, no. That is sacrilege, and anyway, I enjoy seeing penalties marked off.	6	19.35%
I should hold you down and gie you the business for this poll.	13	41.94%
I can't vote because I live in the District of Columbia.	3	9.68%
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09-23-2007, 10:56 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-682449 VARSITY	A proposed NFL rules change You know what I hate? I hate that any time there's a long kick return, the first reaction of every knowledgeable fan is to look for a penalty flag. I think it taints the excitement of one of the game's most exciting plays. So I propose this: On kickoffs and punts, the kicking team gets to add a 12th man. In return, there will be no more penalties called for blocking in the back (above the waist - below the waist will still count) or for holding. All other penalties will be called as normal. What say ye? Poll forthcoming, unless it gets called back for a block in the back.
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09-23-2007, 11:06 PM	#2
KurtCobain legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Independence, MO Casino cash: $-3347903	Solid idea.
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09-23-2007, 11:07 PM	#3
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	a block in the back is a penalty because it is dangerous...
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09-23-2007, 11:09 PM	#5
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	I'm just thinking how easy it would be for teams to score with holding completely legalized. Probably 25% of all kicks would go to the house if this happened. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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runnercyclist Gone to Carolina Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: By lake Wylie in tega cay Casino cash: $10006038	NEver happen. The Zebs need to use better judgement in airing their laundry. It should be blatant and effect the outcome of the play, otherwise don't throw the flag.
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09-23-2007, 11:12 PM	#8
L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2688654	What do think this is? The Arena League?
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09-23-2007, 11:43 PM	#9
mcan Apr 13,1949 – Dec 15, 2011 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $9996085	25% is probably conservative. You put your ten best tacklers on the field and your fastest guy. Fastest guy gets the ball. Everybody else (except one guy and the kicker) gets tackled. Touchdown every time.
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09-24-2007, 12:15 AM	#10
Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $-380000	No, I think a system that is something like a "delayed" call is in order. Individual official spots a foul, throws a flag to mark infraction. If it's decided that the foul had no bearing on the outcome of the play in question, flag is pocketed. If it has an effect, penalty stands. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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09-24-2007, 01:04 AM	#11
mcan Apr 13,1949 – Dec 15, 2011 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $9996085	How about players just not hit people in the back? Holding happens a lot and subsequently a lot of holding gets called and still a ton more goes unnoticed or unpenalized. But just one good block in the back can completely spring a return man. They're going to call it every time they see it, regardless of where it happens.
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09-24-2007, 05:23 AM	#12
StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	Block in the back is dangerous to player.
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09-24-2007, 05:48 AM	#13
Braincase Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pond> Me <Barn Casino cash: $11298284	Why not allow the ball carrier to use a single-shot derringer? Small calibre, of course. Certainly change the definition of "Taking one for the team." __________________ BrainCase
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09-24-2007, 06:38 AM	#14
penguinz Supporter Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $697626	Why not just make it so that if the flag is on a player that has no effect on the play then it is ignored. __________________
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