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Old 10-23-2006, 07:09 AM   Topic Starter
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Is Ty Law a Bust??

He has had a few good plays-Arizona he saved the game-but in Pitt he misplayed the ball and fell down, leading to a TD-after that the game was over. He seems to play too far back and has been burned repeatedly while getting several penalties. The pass interference yesterday directly lead to a TD that could have cost us the game.

So is he worth the pile of cash so far??
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:12 AM   #2
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The PI was a BS call.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:14 AM   #3
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The PI was a BS call.
He pushed the guy down?
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:17 AM   #4
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He pushed the guy down?
Hardly, he touched the guy and he fell down but the ball damn near went into the stands and was not catchable in the least bit.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:27 AM   #5
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Hardly, he touched the guy and he fell down but the ball damn near went into the stands and was not catchable in the least bit.
I agree the ball looked uncatchable, but TY did have his hands on him throughout the route.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:22 AM   #6
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He pushed the guy down?
The receiver tripped on the goal line and the ball didn't even land in the endzone. Illegal contact, maybe. PI, nope.

How many passes have been thrown his way this year? Maybe a couple a game. It would take the careful study of 6 games worth of film, but I would suggest that you haven't seen a lot of Ty Law because he generally covers his receiver. The value of a CB is in the number of passes NOT thrown his direction because his man is covered.

I'm pretty sure whether the CBs line up over the receiver, or off is not their own decision. Take that issue up with Gun.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:25 AM   #7
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The receiver tripped on the goal line and the ball didn't even land in the endzone. Illegal contact, maybe. PI, nope.

How many passes have been thrown his way this year? Maybe a couple a game. It would take the careful study of 6 games worth of film, but I would suggest that you haven't seen a lot of Ty Law because he generally covers his receiver. The value of a CB is in the number of passes NOT thrown his direction because his man is covered.

I'm pretty sure whether the CBs line up over the receiver, or off is not their own decision. Take that issue up with Gun.
You could be right about getting burned on the screen passes-Gun might have them playing back.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:33 AM   #8
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You could be right about getting burned on the screen passes-Gun might have them playing back.

Which I disagree with. I think every time a receiver lines up the CB should bust him in the chops at the snap of the ball. But I'm guessing the coaches call the coverage schemes, not each player doing what they feel like on that particular down.
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:12 PM   #9
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He pushed the guy down?
i don't know what game you were watching but Law barely made contact.... even then it was just "hand-fighting"


the guy tripped over his own feet.



maybe ....... maybe it could of been consider a illegal contract/5 yrds penalty with automatic 1st down.


no way was it a PI ..... the ball wasn't catchable anyway.


yea Law did slip against the steelers ..... the entire secondary played like total crap against the steelers.

isn't Surtain actually being paid more money by us??

i think so ... Law isn't a bust


our linebackers and safeties are a far bigger weaknesss in the passing game.


not to mention that i think our coaching tell them them to stay back and let the guy make the catch and then tackle him.


teams should just be throwing shallow crossing patterns all day


i expect holmgren to dink and dunk the crap outa us
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:12 AM   #10
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:15 AM   #11
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yeah, bring back McLeon
I still have nightmares over that guy.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:13 AM   #12
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The PI call was bullshit, you can't blame him on that one. I don't really recall him getting "several penalties", in fact, Surtain probably has just as many if not more than Law.

We're still only 3/8 of the way into the season....
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:16 AM   #13
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He pushed the guy down?



absolutely not.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:17 AM   #14
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You can't blame Law for falling down on the slick grass in the Pittsburgh game.

And I'm not sure he's been burned repeatedly, either.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:23 AM   #15
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Only two tackles yesterday and Parker smoked him a few times.

With all the hype for two years getting this guy-is is worth it??
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