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Old 05-07-2008, 08:58 PM  
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Walsh Gives NFL 8 Tapes of Pats Cheating
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Ex-Pats employee Walsh sends NFL video of Pats' taping

After brokering a deal to protect himself, former New England Patriots employee Matt Walsh has finally turned over his evidence in the videotaping controversy.
The New York Times reported and the NFL confirmed on Wednesday that Walsh sent eight tapes to the league that show the Patriots recording the play-calling signals of five opponents in six games between 2000 and 2002.
Taping the signals of opposing teams is prohibited by league rules, and the Patriots were already fined $750,000 and docked a first-round draft choice in September for taping the New York Jets. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell left open the possibility that more penalties could be levied.
A Patriots employee from 1997-2003, Walsh reached an agreement to turn over the tapes in exchange for being indemnified from all future legal fees.
The New York Times obtained a list of the Walsh tapes, and the league confirmed that list, which says that the Patriots taped offensive and defensive coaches in regular-season games against the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns and San Diego Chargers. The team also made video of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2002 AFC Championship Game.
Walsh's tapes do not include the video of the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough before the 2002 Super Bowl, as reported by the Boston Herald.
"Mr. Walsh has never claimed to have a tape of the walk-through," said Walsh's lawyer Michael Levy, according to the Times. "Mr. Walsh has never been the source of any of the media speculation about such a tape. Mr. Walsh was not the source for the Feb. 2 Boston Herald article."
Walsh has separate meetings scheduled on Tuesday with the commissioner and Senator Arlen Specter in which he is expected to provide additional details about the taping process.
Under his agreement with the league, Walsh can retain copies of his videotapes, but he cannot use them without the consent of the NFL.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:02 PM   #2
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Well, let's see... six new cases, I guess they forfeit their first round pick in the next six drafts.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:04 PM   #3
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Well, let's see... six new cases, I guess they forfeit their first round pick in the next six drafts.
And they still would beat the Herm lead Chiefs 6 straight....
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:05 PM   #4
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And they still would beat the Herm lead Chiefs 6 straight....
Wow, way to turn this into a Herm bashing moment.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:06 PM   #5
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Wow, way to turn this into a Herm bashing moment.
they don't call him rerun for no reason.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:08 PM   #6
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Well, let's see... six new cases, I guess they forfeit their first round pick in the next six drafts.
Actually this is nothing new, all of the stuff on those tapes was admitted to by the Patriots to the commissioner.

The only way they'd have gotten more punishment would be if he had the tape of the walkthrough.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:09 PM   #8
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Wow, way to turn this into a Herm bashing moment.
Hey just making an observation....
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:11 PM   #9
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I just want this to go away. It's not good for the game at all.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:12 PM   #10
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Hey just making an observation....
I believe that would be speculation, rather than observation, and I would speculate you are probably right.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:13 PM   #11
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Actually this is nothing new, all of the stuff on those tapes was admitted to by the Patriots to the commissioner.

The only way they'd have gotten more punishment would be if he had the tape of the walkthrough.
How do you know this? It was reported that they admitted some videotaping, but how do you know they specifically admitted to these incidents?
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I believe that would be speculation, rather than observation, and I would speculate you are probably right.
Reerun = against Herm
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I don't recall any information saying they taped their first AFC Championship Game under Belichick. And to be honest, if they'd do it then, they were probably doing it fairly often.
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I just want this to go away. It's not good for the game at all.
What's worse for the game is the lax punishment. It's like when the Broncos literally cheated with Vasoline and got a free timeout and a, what?, $5000 fine?
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What's worse for the game is the lax punishment. It's like when the Broncos literally cheated with Vasoline and got a free timeout and a, what?, $5000 fine?
I don't consider giving up a 1st round pick and the massive fine on BB to be lax.

I agree that Denver's penalties for their multiple infractions of cheating the salary cap, greasing jerseys, illegal martial arts blocking techniques, circumventing the draft order, and bribing officials were extremely lax. But now their titles are generally considered to be shams throughout the league, so I'm not sure what it gained them.
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