Football DeSean Jackson

Zouk · 12-24-2007, 12:52 PM

I'm curious if people would be upset if the Chiefs drafted him in the 5-8 range (assume Long and Dorsey are off the board).

I look at him as the explosive touchdown / big-play maker that this team desperately needs. The team right now has no explosive open-field player who can take the ball all the way every time he touches it. Bowe, Gonzalez, LJ, and Kolby are all move-the-chain types - they're not explosive. Plus big plays on special teams determine so many close games, as the Bears showed last year. I think he's a much more polished receiver than Ted Ginn was last year, coming from Tedford's pro-style offense. And remember Herm's first draft pick as a head coach was Santana Moss, who won many games for him with big punt returns and catches.

eazyb81 · 12-24-2007, 12:53 PM

Yes, I'd be pissed. I don't think his talent warrants a selection that high.

88TG88 · 12-24-2007, 12:53 PM

That guy is so overrated. He folds like a lawn chair in big games. He also has a huge ego. If we drafted him before the 3rd round I would riot.

Zouk · 12-24-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 88TG88

That guy is so overrated. He folds like a lawn chair in big games. He also has a huge ego. If we drafted him before the 3rd round I would riot.

He caught 11 balls for 161 yards against Oregon this year. He returned a punt for a score in the season opener against Tennessee.

Ultra Peanut · 12-24-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

would be upset if the Chiefs drafted him in the 5-8 range

**Skip Towne** · 12-24-2007, 01:08 PM

Bob Dole said he is a dipshit.

88TG88 · 12-24-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

He caught 11 balls for 161 yards against Oregon this year. He returned a punt for a score in the season opener against Tennessee.

I'd be fine with drafting him in the 3rd/4th rounds and have him return punts/kicks. I think he sees himself as a true No. 1 in the NFL, which he is definitely not.

Mecca · 12-24-2007, 01:14 PM

He weighs about 175lbs......His NFL future is probably as a slot WR/return man.

HolmeZz · 12-24-2007, 01:17 PM

He doesn't make sense for us.

snatch · 12-24-2007, 01:23 PM

Besides... We will be drafting higher than 5.

Zouk · 12-24-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He weighs about 175lbs......His NFL future is probably as a slot WR/return man.

No way, man. You don't put speed like that in the slot. You put guys like Welker, Chrebet, and Stokley in the slot - guys with good quickness to get open in a short area, but that do not have great long speed. Guys like Hester, Ginn, Steve Smith, Santana Moss - they all play on the outside.

At 6 foot tall, Jackson probably needs to get to 180-185 to be a top 10 pick (although Ginn went 9 at 178). His agents know that. I think he'll run sub 4.35 at over 180 in the spring.

But it's the explosive open field talent that I'm most interested in. That translates directly to the NFL in a very predictable way.

Mecca · 12-24-2007, 01:26 PM

Steve Smith is short but have you seen him? He's built...DeSean Jackson doesn't have a build anything close to that...

I have a hard time seeing him as a big time starting WR at his size.

Zouk · 12-24-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Steve Smith is short but have you seen him? He's built...DeSean Jackson doesn't have a build anything close to that...

I have a hard time seeing him as a big time starting WR at his size.

You're right - Santana Moss, Hester, and Ginn are much better comparisons for Jackson than Steve Smith who is slower but stronger.

If he's a Devin Hester who knows how to play offense, he's definitely worth the pick.

Mecca · 12-24-2007, 01:35 PM

Considering Hester is good at special teams and basically nothing else, and Ginn kinda sucks..that's not a ringing endorsement.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-25-2007, 08:11 AM

Talented, explosive guy but I would not want the Chiefs to draft him this year, especially not in the top 10.

12-24-2007, 12:52 PM
Zouk Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: DC Casino cash: $10004900	DeSean Jackson I'm curious if people would be upset if the Chiefs drafted him in the 5-8 range (assume Long and Dorsey are off the board). I look at him as the explosive touchdown / big-play maker that this team desperately needs. The team right now has no explosive open-field player who can take the ball all the way every time he touches it. Bowe, Gonzalez, LJ, and Kolby are all move-the-chain types - they're not explosive. Plus big plays on special teams determine so many close games, as the Bears showed last year. I think he's a much more polished receiver than Ted Ginn was last year, coming from Tedford's pro-style offense. And remember Herm's first draft pick as a head coach was Santana Moss, who won many games for him with big punt returns and catches.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	He weighs about 175lbs......His NFL future is probably as a slot WR/return man.
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12-24-2007, 01:17 PM	#9
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	He doesn't make sense for us.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	Steve Smith is short but have you seen him? He's built...DeSean Jackson doesn't have a build anything close to that... I have a hard time seeing him as a big time starting WR at his size.
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12-24-2007, 01:35 PM	#14
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	Considering Hester is good at special teams and basically nothing else, and Ginn kinda sucks..that's not a ringing endorsement.
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12-25-2007, 08:11 AM	#15
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $5574952	Talented, explosive guy but I would not want the Chiefs to draft him this year, especially not in the top 10. __________________
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