Mike Mayock's 10 draft nuggets:

Deberg_1990 · 04-08-2009, 05:18 PM

Courtesy of Peter King..

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...aft/index.html

Ten Nuggets Mined From Mayock

1. "This is by far the worst year for the top 10 that I've seen. Down around 18, 20, you'll get every bit the player you'll get in the top 10 for a third of the price.''

2. His gut feeling is Detroit's taking Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford with the first pick of the draft.

3. "I can't bang the table for Stafford the way I did for Matt Ryan last year. I don't see an elite player in him every time I watch, which you need to see if you're taking a quarterback that high.''

4. Mayock, if he had his choice of first-round picks for talent and value, would be around 22. "The value in this draft is at 15 and beyond.''

5. He says eight or nine tight ends will be drafted in the first three rounds. He loves the best of the bunch, Oklahoma State's Brandon Pettigrew. (I'd love to see the Bills land him, by the way. Perfect offensive weapon for a coordinator, Turk Schonert, who loves to use the tight end.)

6. He likes Eugene Monroe over Jason Smith, if you're picking a franchise tackle. "Smith's got a better upside. Very aggressive. But Monroe's got the best feet in the draft. He's a really accomplished technician.''

7. He thinks Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry -- who Detroit would play at middle linebacker if the Lions made him the first pick of the draft -- would be optimally used at strongside linebacker in the 4-3 because he can cover, he can play physically over the tight end, and he's got upside pass-rushing ability.

8. He's scared of Brian Orakpo, the Texas defensive end who's the apple of a few teams' eyes in the top half of the first round. "Buyer beware,'' Mayock said. "He's boom or bust. I don't know if he's DeMarcus Ware or Vernon Gholston. I've seen him have some really good games, and I've seen what I considered to be Brandon Pettigrew tearing him apart. The point is, I don't see it all the time from Orakpo, which concerns me.''

9. Of the elite quarterbacks, he likes USC's Mark Sanchez the best. "He's the most ready made for the pro game right now.''

10. If you need a cornerback in this draft, sit it out. There are no corners even well above average, never mind great.

A year ago, Mayock told me he liked Ryan, who played four years at Boston College, more than he'd liked any quarterback to come out in years. Not the case with the three early entry passers this year -- Stafford, Sanchez and Kansas State's Josh Freeman. "In the last 15 years, there have been 11 underclass quarterbacks taken in the first round,'' he said. "Of those 11, Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers are the only clear successes. It's a dangerous thing, picking young quarterbacks so high.''

Saccopoo · 04-08-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

"In the last 15 years, there have been 11 underclass quarterbacks taken in the first round,'' he said. "Of those 11, Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers are the only clear successes. It's a dangerous thing, picking young quarterbacks so high.''

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently they don't have an understanding of the miracles that will soon be provided by St. Sanchez. I mean, I was told by a number of "insiders" that he is the only quarterback that the Chiefs might have a chance at that will become the golden child, the FRANCHISE, and lead us to the promised land. His disciples still want the Chiefs to pick him, knowing for sure of his future success - history be damned, so that their beloved saviour will give them the QBOTF in a draft that has so desperately eluded them since 1983.

So, eff you Mayock. And eff you history. St. Sanchez will soon be blessing Arrowhead.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-08-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently they don't have an understanding of the miracles that will soon be provided by St. Sanchez. I mean, I was told by a number of "insiders" that he is the only quarterback that the Chiefs might have a chance at that will become the golden child, the FRANCHISE, and lead us to the promised land. His disciples still want the Chiefs to pick him, knowing for sure of his future success - history be damned, so that their beloved saviour will give them the QBOTF in a draft that has so desperately eluded them since 1983.

So, eff you Mayock. And eff you history. St. Sanchez will soon be blessing Arrowhead.

Stafford and Freeman are underclassmen as well

**The Franchise** · 04-08-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently they don't have an understanding of the miracles that will soon be provided by St. Sanchez. I mean, I was told by a number of "insiders" that he is the only quarterback that the Chiefs might have a chance at that will become the golden child, the FRANCHISE, and lead us to the promised land. His disciples still want the Chiefs to pick him, knowing for sure of his future success - history be damned, so that their beloved saviour will give them the QBOTF in a draft that has so desperately eluded them since 1983.

So, eff you Mayock. And eff you history. St. Sanchez will soon be blessing Arrowhead.

Of the elite quarterbacks, he likes USC's Mark Sanchez the best. "He's the most ready made for the pro game right now.''

Dipshit.

ncCHIEFfan · 04-08-2009, 05:34 PM

umm....are you OK?

Saccopoo · 04-08-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Of the elite quarterbacks, he likes USC's Mark Sanchez the best. "He's the most ready made for the pro game right now.''

Dipshit.

I am but a worm...

Apostle Mayock is correct and I should subject or subjugate myself for chastisement by the chosen ones for my transgressions. I lay myself before you oh disciples of the Saint, my sins of ignorance and dipshittery laid bare before your wisdom, so that you may judge and punish me accordingly.

It is history that shall be damned! St. Sanchez shall rise above even the pillars of glory built by the first born, Roethlisberger, and will guild the streets of Kansas City in gold, and wine shall flow as we, his disciples, rejoice in bliss and merriment as the Chiefs draft his holiness knowing that the Prophet, the Oracle, Mayock, has foreseen his greatness, mirroring the intuitive wisdom of his CP flock.

Blessings to the Cult of St. Sanchez and all of it's wisdom and glory!

Chiefnj2 · 04-08-2009, 06:29 PM

Sanchez has very good feet and mechanics, good leadership and an above average arm. He seems to have the it factor. But, to say a guy with one year starting experience is the "most ready for the NFL right now" is perplexing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-08-2009, 06:34 PM

It's pretty simple: If Sanchez fails, he can blame it on underclassmen QBs. If he succeeds, he'll say that he claimed Sanchez was the most pro-ready.

It's called being a duplicitous one who sucks the penis.

**SAUTO** · 04-08-2009, 06:43 PM

aaron rodgers a "clear success"? after one year????

htismaqe · 04-08-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Sanchez has very good feet and mechanics, good leadership and an above average arm. He seems to have the it factor. But, to say a guy with one year starting experience is the "most ready for the NFL right now" is perplexing.

At least you're reasonable about it.

Saccogoo has become a parody of himself. He's become more inflexible than the people he's arguing against.

Coogs · 04-08-2009, 06:44 PM

I watched Path to the Draft tonight. Tonights segment focused on the defensive ends.

Mayock had another gem to add to the list tonight. He is going on record saying that in 3 years, we are going to look back at this draft, and on the defensive side of the ball the best player is going to be...

Robert Ayers DE Tennessee.

htismaqe · 04-08-2009, 06:44 PM

Anyway, enough about Sanchez, let's talk about his VERY FIRST point.

. "This is by far the worst year for the top 10 that I've seen. Down around 18, 20, you'll get every bit the player you'll get in the top 10 for a third of the price.''

**SAUTO** · 04-08-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Anyway, enough about Sanchez, let's talk about his VERY FIRST point.

. "This is by far the worst year for the top 10 that I've seen. Down around 18, 20, you'll get every bit the player you'll get in the top 10 for a third of the price.''

so if we end up with 12 and 18 and trade the 12 down to 21 end up with more picks in the 2nd/3rd we would be cooking with gas?

htismaqe · 04-08-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

so if we end up with 12 and 18 and trade the 12 down to 21 end up with more picks in the 2nd/3rd we would be cooking with gas?

Hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

**SAUTO** · 04-08-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

sounds ALOT better than whats in the trade down with philly thread

04-08-2009, 05:18 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $44454	Mike Mayock's 10 draft nuggets: Courtesy of Peter King.. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...aft/index.html Ten Nuggets Mined From Mayock 1. "This is by far the worst year for the top 10 that I've seen. Down around 18, 20, you'll get every bit the player you'll get in the top 10 for a third of the price.'' 2. His gut feeling is Detroit's taking Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford with the first pick of the draft. 3. "I can't bang the table for Stafford the way I did for Matt Ryan last year. I don't see an elite player in him every time I watch, which you need to see if you're taking a quarterback that high.'' 4. Mayock, if he had his choice of first-round picks for talent and value, would be around 22. "The value in this draft is at 15 and beyond.'' 5. He says eight or nine tight ends will be drafted in the first three rounds. He loves the best of the bunch, Oklahoma State's Brandon Pettigrew. (I'd love to see the Bills land him, by the way. Perfect offensive weapon for a coordinator, Turk Schonert, who loves to use the tight end.) 6. He likes Eugene Monroe over Jason Smith, if you're picking a franchise tackle. "Smith's got a better upside. Very aggressive. But Monroe's got the best feet in the draft. He's a really accomplished technician.'' 7. He thinks Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry -- who Detroit would play at middle linebacker if the Lions made him the first pick of the draft -- would be optimally used at strongside linebacker in the 4-3 because he can cover, he can play physically over the tight end, and he's got upside pass-rushing ability. 8. He's scared of Brian Orakpo, the Texas defensive end who's the apple of a few teams' eyes in the top half of the first round. "Buyer beware,'' Mayock said. "He's boom or bust. I don't know if he's DeMarcus Ware or Vernon Gholston. I've seen him have some really good games, and I've seen what I considered to be Brandon Pettigrew tearing him apart. The point is, I don't see it all the time from Orakpo, which concerns me.'' 9. Of the elite quarterbacks, he likes USC's Mark Sanchez the best. "He's the most ready made for the pro game right now.'' 10. If you need a cornerback in this draft, sit it out. There are no corners even well above average, never mind great. A year ago, Mayock told me he liked Ryan, who played four years at Boston College, more than he'd liked any quarterback to come out in years. Not the case with the three early entry passers this year -- Stafford, Sanchez and Kansas State's Josh Freeman. "In the last 15 years, there have been 11 underclass quarterbacks taken in the first round,'' he said. "Of those 11, Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers are the only clear successes. It's a dangerous thing, picking young quarterbacks so high.''
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Sanchez has very good feet and mechanics, good leadership and an above average arm. He seems to have the it factor. But, to say a guy with one year starting experience is the "most ready for the NFL right now" is perplexing. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	It's pretty simple: If Sanchez fails, he can blame it on underclassmen QBs. If he succeeds, he'll say that he claimed Sanchez was the most pro-ready. It's called being a duplicitous one who sucks the penis. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8079900	Anyway, enough about Sanchez, let's talk about his VERY FIRST point. . "This is by far the worst year for the top 10 that I've seen. Down around 18, 20, you'll get every bit the player you'll get in the top 10 for a third of the price.''
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