What makes a QB a franchise QB?

**luv** · 04-08-2009, 09:40 PM

Smart, athletic, accurate, all of the above? What about mobility? Does being versatile in that way play into anything? I like watching a QB who knows how to handle himself, his team, and the ball. I think it's even more entertaining when they're ab;e to run the ball as well.

Define "franchise QB".

ChiefsCountry · 04-08-2009, 09:51 PM

See Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Big Ben, Matt Ryan.

**luv** · 04-08-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

See Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Big Ben, Matt Ryan.

But did everyone see them as franchise QB's when they got drafted? I saw Carson Palmer on my fantasy team last year, unfortunately.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-08-2009, 10:10 PM

The ability to hand off, throw screens, and most importantly, hold on to the ball so he doesn't make mistakes.

**Reaper16** · 04-08-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

But did everyone see them as franchise QB's when they got drafted? I saw Carson Palmer on my fantasy team last year, unfortunately.

The only one who wasn't viewed that way was Brady. Scouting isn't objective.

**luv** · 04-08-2009, 10:40 PM

So far, I'm getting that a franchise QB should be a basic QB, and given examples of franchise QB's.

I'm asking, in your opinion, what makes a franchise QB? I mean, hell, there were people who thought Thigpen could be one.

**cdcox** · 04-08-2009, 10:42 PM

You don't know who IS a franchise QB until he's already established himself. As Reaper16 mentioned, all but Brady were drafted with that potential in mind.

When you have a franchise QB you know it. He is your QB and you don't think about anyone else under center for the next 10 years. Fans from other teams don't make jokes about him. They fear him and don't want the ball in his hands with the game on the line. He has the ability to make plays that most QBs wouldn't. He can bring a team back by himself. He makes John Madden say all kinds of stupid stuff. Everyone wants to see him play, because he is one of the best players in the league. It is like no other feeling in the world, because if the rest of your team is average you are an automatic contender year in and year out.

The Chiefs haven't had one in 35 years.

SBK · 04-08-2009, 10:42 PM

Franchise QB's are always picked late in the draft.

**cdcox** · 04-08-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

So far, I'm getting that a franchise QB should be a basic QB, and given examples of franchise QB's.

I'm asking, in your opinion, what makes a franchise QB? I mean, hell, there were people who thought Thigpen could be one.

There are people on here who think the government planted ground level explosives to bring down the World Trade Center.

**DeezNutz** · 04-08-2009, 10:45 PM

A franchise QB is a "sure thing." And the only sure thing in this draft class is Curry.

So, to answer your question, take all the qualities of Aaron Curry and apply them to the QB position.

SBK · 04-08-2009, 10:48 PM

I would also like to add that a franchise QB is inferior to the ever threatening game manager who doesn't make mistakes.

SBK · 04-08-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

A franchise QB is a "sure thing." And the only sure thing in this draft class is Curry.

So, to answer your question, take all the qualities of Aaron Curry and apply them to the QB position.

I think you'd be better off to just move Curry to QB.

**cdcox** · 04-08-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

A franchise QB is a "sure thing." And the only sure thing in this draft class is Curry.

So, to answer your question, take all the qualities of Aaron Curry and apply them to the QB position.

Someone who makes sure tackles after he throws a Sancheception?

**DeezNutz** · 04-08-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

I think you'd be better off to just move Curry to QB.

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Someone who makes sure tackles after he throws a Sancheception?

Both thoughtful and helpful comments.

**DeezNutz** · 04-08-2009, 10:54 PM

Another way that you can identify a franchise QB is to take the best G in all of football, look at his number of Pro-Bowls made, and divide that figure in half.

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luv You think you can get by this? Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $-1250000	So far, I'm getting that a franchise QB should be a basic QB, and given examples of franchise QB's. I'm asking, in your opinion, what makes a franchise QB? I mean, hell, there were people who thought Thigpen could be one.
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cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-588231	You don't know who IS a franchise QB until he's already established himself. As Reaper16 mentioned, all but Brady were drafted with that potential in mind. When you have a franchise QB you know it. He is your QB and you don't think about anyone else under center for the next 10 years. Fans from other teams don't make jokes about him. They fear him and don't want the ball in his hands with the game on the line. He has the ability to make plays that most QBs wouldn't. He can bring a team back by himself. He makes John Madden say all kinds of stupid stuff. Everyone wants to see him play, because he is one of the best players in the league. It is like no other feeling in the world, because if the rest of your team is average you are an automatic contender year in and year out. The Chiefs haven't had one in 35 years.
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SBK Curry is the pick??? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Casino cash: $10004900	Franchise QB's are always picked late in the draft.
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SBK Curry is the pick??? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Casino cash: $10004900	I would also like to add that a franchise QB is inferior to the ever threatening game manager who doesn't make mistakes.
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