Chiefs Much better than expected

Mr. Laz · 09-13-2009, 06:53 PM

You can't really be happy about a loss but the Chiefs clearly exceeded expectations.

Our defense was decent, especially if you take into account that the Ravens threw at Leggett ALL GAME LONG. You put a healthy Flowers back in and it's better.

Our special teams were solid outside of the one bad kickoff and one bad punt. Kudoes to the Rook for a 53 yrd field goal on his maiden NFL outing.

New Tightend Ryan showed up

Derrick Johnson showed up even though he was only in there during a pass coverage package.

Tank Tyler showed up and looked like our best Dlineman.

Vrabel was an asset even though our Linebackers look to be a major weakness in coverage.

Our coaching was extremely conservative to start out but got better.

Brodie Croyle didn't break and didn't throw scared either. Nice.

Our main problem is still the Oline ... i can't decide which is the bigger weakness, Center or Right tackle. Niswanger is almost always Failing in one way or another. Missed block, weak push,getting road grading all the way back to the QB.

LJ failed to impress (insert Oline blame here)

overall not too bad considering we were playing a team with one of the best defenses in the league who many consider to be a legitimage Super Bowl contender.

If the team continues to improve throughout the year it might not be such a painful season after all.

Haley is still a jerk

but if he's a successful jerk then it's all good.

donkhater · 09-13-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

You can't really be happy about a loss but the Chiefs clearly exceeded expectations.

Our defense was decent, especially if you take into account that the Ravens threw at Leggett ALL GAME LONG. You put a healthy Flowers back in and it's better.

>500 yards given up, likely to be the 31st or 32nd ranked defense in the league after this week. Yeah, much improved. Leggett wasn't great, but Flacco stood back there and cooked a four-course meal WAAAAY more often than Leggett got picked on. The outside linebackers looked more foolish in coverage to me, than leggett did.

Our special teams were solid outside of the one bad kickoff and one bad punt. Kudoes to the Rook for a 53 yrd field goal on his maiden NFL outing.

New Tightend Ryan showed up

Derrick Johnson showed up even though he was only in there during a pass coverage package.

Tank Tyler showed up and looked like our best Dlineman.

Vrabel was an asset even though our Linebackers look to be a major weakness in coverage.

Hali can rush the passer out of a two point stance, but I haven't seen much else out of him.

Our coaching was extremely conservative to start out but got better.

Brodie Croyle didn't break and didn't throw scared either. Nice.

Our main problem is still the Oline ... i can't decide which is the bigger weakness, Center or Right tackle. Niswanger is almost always Failing in one way or another. Missed block, weak push,getting road grading all the way back to the QB.

I wouldn't fault the front office for putting Albert on the right side (Oher was drafted in a similar spot for Baltimore this year to play RT) and taking another left tackle next season. For as much as this board is in love with the guy, he is just average as a left tackle so far in his career.

LJ failed to impress (insert Oline blame here)

overall not too bad considering we were playing a team with one of the best defenses in the league who many consider to be a legitimage Super Bowl contender.

If the team continues to improve throughout the year it might not be such a painful season after all.

Haley is still a jerk

but if he's a successful jerk then it's all good.

Yea, moral victory.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-13-2009, 07:07 PM

I guess you missed the part where the Baltimore Ravens, of all teams, put up 38 points and more than 500 yards of offense on the Chiefs defense. What's worse is that the Ravens continually shot themselves in the foot with penalties, dropped balls and a missed field goal.

I am most certainly glad we don't play the Saints this year.

They might put up 1,000 yards.

No kidding.

Mecca · 09-13-2009, 07:08 PM

They didn't move the ball throwing on Legget all the time...Mason didn't have a big game, Clayton had a big catch but his game wasn't huge either...

The Chiefs got roasted with Heap and the RB's out of the backfield...

**DeezNutz** · 09-13-2009, 07:10 PM

On the plus side, it sounds like we're going to have a very content, happy fan base this season, which is cool.

kstater · 09-13-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

They didn't move the ball throwing on Legget all the time...Mason didn't have a big game, Clayton had a big catch but his game wasn't huge either...

The Chiefs got roasted with Heap and the RB's out of the backfield...

If you add up all the screens including the 2 that got called back, they had roughly 200 yards off of screens.

donkhater · 09-13-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater

If you add up all the screens including the 2 that got called back, they had roughly 200 yards off of screens.

Heap and the running backs combined for 14 catches for 140 yards.

Mecca · 09-13-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkhater

Heap and the running backs combined for 14 catches for 140 yards.

It's going to happen all year, the Chiefs LB's are bad in coverage and don't have speed to get it done.

DBOSHO · 09-13-2009, 07:13 PM

tank showed up?

Marcellus · 09-13-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's going to happen all year, the Chiefs LB's are bad in coverage and don't have speed to get it done.

I won't argue that. The question is can they adjust for it defensively.

Simply Red · 09-13-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I guess you missed the part where the Baltimore Ravens, of all teams, put up 38 points and more than 500 yards of offense on the Chiefs defense. What's worse is that the Ravens continually shot themselves in the foot with penalties, dropped balls and a missed field goal.

I am most certainly glad we don't play the Saints this year.

They might put up 1,000 yards.

No kidding.

DREW BREEEE!!!!!!!!

donkhater · 09-13-2009, 07:14 PM

Vrabel in his post game comments indicated that they thought they would run more and when they went play action so much, they had a tough time getting into coverage. This will be a problem all year with teams with running tendencies. they can exploit that all day.

See:
Pittsburgh
NYG
SD

I'd say Oakland, but their QB sucks.

Mecca · 09-13-2009, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I won't argue that. The question is can they adjust for it defensively.

I don't really know what adjustment they can make, they just don't match up there and they don't get a pass rush to make up for it.

joesomebody · 09-13-2009, 07:15 PM

I for one was happy with what I saw today. It was better than expected for me too.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-13-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY58

was I watching the same game?. . the chiefs were extremely unimpressive .. they had a couple of lucky plays that resulted in the score staying close. . we had no offense at all for 90% of the game and for the most part they marched down the field on us at will. . we played just like the old chiefs . . we missed numerous first downs by a half a yard and did nothing to impress me. . (aside from that 53 yrd kick). .

No man, you don't get it.

The Chiefs only gave up 500 yards defensively.

The Chiefs had nearly 200 yards offensively.

WIN!!!

Oopps, I mean loss.

09-13-2009, 06:53 PM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Much better than expected You can't really be happy about a loss but the Chiefs clearly exceeded expectations. Our defense was decent, especially if you take into account that the Ravens threw at Leggett ALL GAME LONG. You put a healthy Flowers back in and it's better. Our special teams were solid outside of the one bad kickoff and one bad punt. Kudoes to the Rook for a 53 yrd field goal on his maiden NFL outing. New Tightend Ryan showed up Derrick Johnson showed up even though he was only in there during a pass coverage package. Tank Tyler showed up and looked like our best Dlineman. Vrabel was an asset even though our Linebackers look to be a major weakness in coverage. Our coaching was extremely conservative to start out but got better. Brodie Croyle didn't break and didn't throw scared either. Nice. Our main problem is still the Oline ... i can't decide which is the bigger weakness, Center or Right tackle. Niswanger is almost always Failing in one way or another. Missed block, weak push,getting road grading all the way back to the QB. LJ failed to impress (insert Oline blame here) overall not too bad considering we were playing a team with one of the best defenses in the league who many consider to be a legitimage Super Bowl contender. If the team continues to improve throughout the year it might not be such a painful season after all. Haley is still a jerk but if he's a successful jerk then it's all good.
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09-13-2009, 07:07 PM	#3
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	I guess you missed the part where the Baltimore Ravens, of all teams, put up 38 points and more than 500 yards of offense on the Chiefs defense. What's worse is that the Ravens continually shot themselves in the foot with penalties, dropped balls and a missed field goal. I am most certainly glad we don't play the Saints this year. They might put up 1,000 yards. No kidding.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2337050	They didn't move the ball throwing on Legget all the time...Mason didn't have a big game, Clayton had a big catch but his game wasn't huge either... The Chiefs got roasted with Heap and the RB's out of the backfield...
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