Whitlock has a great idea

[orange]

9. Fixing the roughing-Tom Brady-penalty crisis is rather easy.



As I did when I first addressed this problem at the beginning of the season, I'm not going to play the race card. I'm going to continue to ignore the fact that Donovan McNabb had a rib cracked while laying in the end zone and there was no penalty called, and I'm going to ignore the unpenalized illegal hits leveled against Off-The-Marcus Russell and David Garrard last week.

This is not an issue driven by race. It's a star power issue, no different from the NBA officiating that protected Michael Jordan the second half of his career and gave Dwyane Wade and the Miami Heat an NBA title.

Refs pamper the big stars. Refs are humans just like you and me. They get caught up in Brady's fame.

Ray "Avon Barksdale" Lewis and Ed "Stringer Bell" Reed had every right to blast the refs following the Patriots-Ravens game. There were two unwarranted roughing-the-Brady penalties that contributed to New England TD drives. One of the penalties occurred on third and nine and Brady threw incomplete. And the other occurred on second and 11 and Brady completed a 1-yard pass.

The "hits" didn't justify a flag and they certainly didn't justify 15-yard penalties. Why do quarterbacks deserve more protection than a punter or a kicker? Why can't there be a 5-yard running-into-the-Brady call and a 15-yard roughing-the-Brady call?

A hand accidently slapping a QB in the helmet isn't worthy of 15 yards. A defender falling down and grazing a QB's knee isn't worth 15 yards.

And there needs to be a common-sense official placed in a television replay booth. He needs the authority to stop the game and review any and every 15-yard penalty. Look at the excessive-celebration penalty that ruined the Georgia-LSU college game. A common-sense ref in the booth could've stopped that.

If you eliminated the TV timeouts after punts, kickoffs and timeouts primarily taken to stop the clock, a more active replay ref wouldn't interfere with the flow of an NFL game or prevent it from concluding in three hours or less.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/1...are-NFL-Truths

[wild1]

Originally Posted by orange

If you eliminated the TV timeouts after punts, kickoffs and timeouts primarily taken to stop the clock, a more active replay ref wouldn't interfere with the flow of an NFL game or prevent it from concluding in three hours or less.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/1...are-NFL-Truths

I was with him up until here.

Yeah, I'm sure the NFL will just voluntarily flush all the ad revenue from all these commercial breaks.

[blaise]

"If you eliminated the TV timeouts after punts, kickoffs and timeouts primarily taken to stop the clock, a more active replay ref wouldn't interfere with the flow of an NFL game or prevent it from concluding in three hours or less."

Yeah, they won't be doing that.

Yours,
CBS, NBC and FOX

[HotRoute]

my solution is that there should be different levels of roughing the passer.

for the minor hits, 5 yrds and for the severe hits 15 yrds. it might help a little so that some of these ridiculous calls could be lowered to 5 yrds and not keep a drive going. just a thought

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by KC111110

my solution is that there should be different levels of roughing the passer.

for the minor hits, 5 yrds and for the severe hits 15 yrds. it might help a little so that some of these ridiculous calls could be lowered to 5 yrds and not keep a drive going. just a thought

The problem with that is they just took this away from the face mask rule this year, no more 5 or 15 yarder just 15 yard penalty now so that there isn't a judgement call for the refs.

Same thing on the QB's they would say, unfortunately. It sucks. I think it's ruining the game and the phone call the next day to say were sorry dosen't really cut it. Get it right the first time boys.

[HotRoute]

the rule book is an ever changing thing in the NFL and they definately need to get this right. i mean its to the point where even people who dont watch the game that much think its a joke. my girlfriend said while watching the raiders game, on the roughing the passer on j.russell, "what a joke he's a BIG boy he can take a hit". and the most she knows is which team is on offense and which team is on defense.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by whitlock

I'm not going to play the race card. I'm going to continue to ignore the fact that Donovan McNabb had a rib cracked while laying in the end zone and there was no penalty called, and I'm going to ignore the unpenalized illegal hits leveled against Off-The-Marcus Russell and David Garrard last week.

umm ... you just did, jackass.


but yes, the NFL should adopt they college way of doing reviews. Then they could expand possible review situations without slowing down the game.

The NFL has the money to give the booth review the equipment to do the reviews quickly and quietly without slowing down the game at all.

[BigMeatballDave]

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=215771 Hey, Orange. Read this when you get time...

[Earthling]

Mybe they should have pink flags on the qb...just like flag football. Its really gotten ridiculous.

[Steron]

Just add 15 yard penalties to the list of reviewable offenses. Same replay rules apply as they do today. Problem solved.

[Just Passin' By]

Mike Wright got the same penalty called on him that Ngata did, and for doing pretty much the same thing, but that doesn't help Whitlock's argument so he leaves it out. What happened was that the rules were enforced by the tightest calling officiating crew in the NFL. That's it, nothing more. None of the calls were wrong, they were just light contact rather than severe. They were no worse than some of the illegal contact calls have been this season, but they're getting more play in the media.

These calls aren't the problem as long as they're made consistently within each game. It's the blown calls (See Mr. Page for an example) that ruin games.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Steron

Just add 15 yard penalties to the list of reviewable offenses. Same replay rules apply as they do today. Problem solved.

This. But, I don't think you can apply logic to NFL Rules, or its committee.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Have the ****ing commercials while the ref is reviewing it. I dont need to see a ****ing zebra looking in a camera for ****ing 2 minutes while the annoucers try to fill in dead air the entire ****ing time. knock those commercials out baby

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by Earthling

Mybe they should have pink flags on the qb...just like flag football. Its really gotten ridiculous.

And they could combine Breast Cancer Awareness Month with Cervical Cancer Awareness Month every time they toss a pink flag because someone sniffed around too close to Terrific Tom's Tastacular Vagina. Make it happen.

[orange]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=215771 Hey, Orange. Read this when you get time...

I've already read it and responded in a different thread.

It changes nothing. I never claimed Page's hit was "helmet-to-helmet." Quite the contrary, in fact. Please show me - since no one else can - where exactly the NFL "apologized." Or for that matter, where they said it wasn't a personal foul. I'm all eyes.

Note: "NFL apologizes to Page" WRONG. That's GoChiefs' line.

The actual quote for your easy reference:

Safety Jarrad Page said the NFL sent the Chiefs a letter acknowledging a mistake was made when Page was penalized for unnecessary roughness in last week’s loss to the Giants.

Page broke up a pass over the middle for wide receiver Steve Smith but was penalized for making helmet to helmet contact with Smith. Replays showed Page actually used his shoulder to hit Smith in the chest.