Chiefs Suh over berry if he fell to us?

swayy07 · 12-30-2009, 10:11 AM

just wondering what everyone would do if both where still there when we draft.

id hate spending three years worth of first round draft picks on DL and still suck.

Dante84 · 12-30-2009, 10:15 AM

I'd like to get a DC in place, firmly, before we even make any draft decisions. If it's Crennel, so be it. I don't want to handcuff the DC without getting his solid input, assuming its worth a damn.

Dante84 · 12-30-2009, 10:16 AM

That being said, our safety position is causing way more damage to our overall defense than any other position. Including the lack of a fat DT.

BigCatDaddy · 12-30-2009, 10:16 AM

You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

Deberg_1990 · 12-30-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

That being said, our safety position is causing way more damage to our overall defense than any other position. Including the lack of a fat DT.

I thought it was lack of a pass rush?

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2009, 10:18 AM

i would hope that if Suh and Berry both fell to us we would trade down a draft spot or something and then take Berry.

just don't see how Suh fits on our team unless we go back to a 4-3 or they think that Suh can play nose tackle ala Jay Ratliff for Dallas.

Extra Point · 12-30-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You go with Suh and make it work. You can't mortgage your future because you f'd up in the past.

THIS

Dante84 · 12-30-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I thought it was lack of a pass rush?

Quality coverage over the middle will allow our CB's to play better; allowing our entire secondary to erase passing options for the opposing QB; making him sit in the pocket longer; leading to more sacks, broken plays, and more interceptions via forced bad throws.

The pass rush will get much better once we have a solid backfield.

Dante84 · 12-30-2009, 10:24 AM

Even if our Dline gets a better push and we still dont have a safety, teams will dink and dunk us all the way down the field on screens and tight end dump offs.

**Old Dog** · 12-30-2009, 10:31 AM

I would pray that some team would be willing to move up to get Suh. I think this team needs Berry worse than Suh, but it wouldn't shock me at all if they went Suh in that scenario as he would help sell more tickets immediately.

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Even if our Dline gets a better push and we still dont have a safety, teams will dink and dunk us all the way down the field on screens and tight end dump offs.

surely we can improve our safety position through FA without spending a bunch of cash.

i mean solid,unspectacular safeties are pretty common. It's when you get one that is a stud that they get expensive.

Deberg_1990 · 12-30-2009, 10:37 AM

Hali, Jackson, Dorsey, Suh...all #1 picks....

That would be incredible....or incredible "on paper"

Coogs · 12-30-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

surely we can improve our safety position through FA without spending a bunch of cash.

i mean solid,unspectacular safeties are pretty common. It's when you get one that is a stud that they get expensive.

There shoud be a few good ones available in round two and three this year as well. Maybe not Berry. But good none the less.

swayy07 · 12-30-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

surely we can improve our safety position through FA without spending a bunch of cash.

i mean solid,unspectacular safeties are pretty common. It's when you get one that is a stud that they get expensive.

right but wouldnt you want a star back there? i mean look at what TP and Ed reed do for their D's its retarted how much better each of those teams are when they are on the field.

swayy07 · 12-30-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Hali, Jackson, Dorsey, Suh...all #1 picks....

That would be incredible....or incredible "on paper"

if we did this and we didnt end up having one of the best D-lines in the league it would prolly make me wana shoot my self

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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-2038004 VARSITY	That being said, our safety position is causing way more damage to our overall defense than any other position. Including the lack of a fat DT.
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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-2038004 VARSITY	Even if our Dline gets a better push and we still dont have a safety, teams will dink and dunk us all the way down the field on screens and tight end dump offs.
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