Football Who the hell is running the show in Seattle?

B_Ambuehl · 04-24-2010, 03:55 PM

Is Pete Carroll calling all the shots there or is he 2nd in command?

I never really thought too much of Carroll but god damn. If he's calling the shots I give him his due. This is one of the more logical drafts I've seen in ages. They got so much and didn't even have to mortgage anything. It's admirable to see a team run a draft where they don't try to outsmart theirselves, take the obvious deals that are there for the taking at positions of need, and don't try to conform to some kinda outlandish character screening that whittles your draft board down to nothing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2010, 03:57 PM

Agreed 100%.

DaWolf · 04-24-2010, 03:57 PM

On the other side of the coin, they better be right about Whitehurst...

Fritz88 · 04-24-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

On the other side of the coin, they better be right about Whitehurst...

looking at how Pete handled the draft, it's becoming more obvious that he might be right.

Mecca · 04-24-2010, 04:06 PM

You know what is sad?

So many teams are so stupid we sit here and awe at teams that make logical picks. It's amazing how taking the guys you should take will do wonders for you instead of trying to make picks to show you are a super genius.

Fritz88 · 04-24-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You know what is sad?

So many teams are so stupid we sit here and awe at teams that make logical picks. It's amazing how taking the guys you should take will do wonders for you instead of trying to make picks to show you are a super genius.

If Piolis scouts spend as much team researching talent as much as they do with character, we would be better off now. Community Service > talent. **** me.

Deberg_1990 · 04-24-2010, 04:12 PM

New 49er Taylor Mays Implies Pete Carroll Broke Some Sort of Vague Promise to Draft Him

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...57_mays24.html

RENTON — Four years ago, Taylor Mays left Seattle to play for Pete Carroll at USC.

Carroll and the Seahawks passed on a chance to bring him back to his hometown, opting to pick another safety — Earl Thomas of Texas — with the 14th pick of the first round on Thursday.

Mays, who went to Seattle's O'Dea High School, was chosen by San Francisco with the 49th pick, the fifth safety taken in the draft. During a conference call with Bay Area reporters, Mays was asked about Seattle's selection of Thomas.

"It was interesting," he said, according to The Associated Press. "I definitely thought from the relationship that we have, from the things that he had told me about what I needed to be, what the draft process is, things that I needed to do, I felt he told me the complete opposite of the actions that he took, which was definitely alarming.

"There were things he told me I needed to do as a football player versus the actions he took and who he took as a safety. I understand it's a business, but with it being a business, honesty is all I'm asking for."

The main issue for Mays?

Carroll's implication that Mays didn't have anything to worry about entering the draft.

"That my game was OK," Mays said. "That my backpedal was fine, my tackling was fine, it was all the things that I asked, what do I need to work on, what do I need to show all these points? I was kind of led to think I was OK. It is what it is, and I'm so happy to be with the 49ers on the team Ronnie Lott played on."

Carroll was asked about Mays' comments after the conclusion of the third round Friday night.

"Well, first off, I love Taylor," Carroll said. "I love the player that he is, and we were thinking that we would have a terrific chance to get him somewhere."

Carroll said it was the matter of Seattle getting a player it thought would be chosen as high as seventh overall.

"I'd like to pick all my guys, but it just didn't work out," Carroll said. "Unfortunately for Taylor, it was a hard day for him."

A year ago, Mays was projected as a potential top-15 pick had he entered the draft after his junior season.

"His expectations were very, very high," Carroll said, "and mine, too. So I feel for him. But I know what he's going to be like. ... This is a remarkably competitive guy, and prideful, and I'm sure he's got a chip on his shoulder, and it's going to serve him well.

"It's not going to help us in the division."

kcxiv · 04-24-2010, 04:13 PM

i thought Pete Carroll is the coach that shouldnt coach at the NFL level. NOw these same guys are saying he's drafting great? Get the **** outta here.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2010, 04:15 PM

Drafting isn't coaching, dipshit. He's still an awful gameday coach, and I don't know if his style is conducive to the NFL.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-24-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Is Pete Carroll calling all the shots there or is he 2nd in command?

I never really thought too much of Carroll but god damn. If he's calling the shots I give him his due. This is one of the more logical drafts I've seen in ages. They got so much and didn't even have to mortgage anything. It's admirable to see a team run a draft where they don't try to outsmart theirselves, take the obvious deals that are there for the taking at positions of need, and don't try to conform to some kinda outlandish character screening that whittles your draft board down to nothing.

They drafted the right value in the first 2 rounds. Otherwise, it was just another draft.

They got the job done, but I don't think anyone's going to look at this draft and say they hit a home run. They were just lucky enough to have two marquee picks in a loaded draft.

HotRoute · 04-24-2010, 04:16 PM

pete knew that earl thomas is going to be just as productive as any safety in this draft, except for berry

Mecca · 04-24-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

They drafted the right value in the first 2 rounds. Otherwise, it was just another draft.

They got the job done, but I don't think anyone's going to look at this draft and say they hit a home run. They were just lucky enough to have two marquee picks in a loaded draft.

That's more than I can say for our draft.

B_Ambuehl · 04-24-2010, 04:19 PM

It's more than just the draft. The acquisitions of Lendale White and Leon Washington for basically nothing were top notch.

Ralphy Boy · 04-24-2010, 04:27 PM

They had a great draft. I've been a big fan of Kam Chancellor for a long time and obviously of Tate. McCoy was a good pickup as well.

Taylor Mays is no different, I'm sure, than Jimmy Clausen, Tate, Sam Young & Eric Olsen. I'm sure all of them thought that we'd draft them at some point, but sometimes people hear what they want to.

HotRoute · 04-24-2010, 07:08 PM

does anyone think that j.clausen will hold a grudge over weis not picking him up like t.mays is holding over pete carrol. i definately would.

04-24-2010, 03:55 PM
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9705405	Who the hell is running the show in Seattle? Is Pete Carroll calling all the shots there or is he 2nd in command? I never really thought too much of Carroll but god damn. If he's calling the shots I give him his due. This is one of the more logical drafts I've seen in ages. They got so much and didn't even have to mortgage anything. It's admirable to see a team run a draft where they don't try to outsmart theirselves, take the obvious deals that are there for the taking at positions of need, and don't try to conform to some kinda outlandish character screening that whittles your draft board down to nothing.
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04-24-2010, 03:57 PM	#2
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	Agreed 100%. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	You know what is sad? So many teams are so stupid we sit here and awe at teams that make logical picks. It's amazing how taking the guys you should take will do wonders for you instead of trying to make picks to show you are a super genius.
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04-24-2010, 04:12 PM	#7
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $124454	New 49er Taylor Mays Implies Pete Carroll Broke Some Sort of Vague Promise to Draft Him http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...57_mays24.html RENTON — Four years ago, Taylor Mays left Seattle to play for Pete Carroll at USC. Carroll and the Seahawks passed on a chance to bring him back to his hometown, opting to pick another safety — Earl Thomas of Texas — with the 14th pick of the first round on Thursday. Mays, who went to Seattle's O'Dea High School, was chosen by San Francisco with the 49th pick, the fifth safety taken in the draft. During a conference call with Bay Area reporters, Mays was asked about Seattle's selection of Thomas. "It was interesting," he said, according to The Associated Press. "I definitely thought from the relationship that we have, from the things that he had told me about what I needed to be, what the draft process is, things that I needed to do, I felt he told me the complete opposite of the actions that he took, which was definitely alarming. "There were things he told me I needed to do as a football player versus the actions he took and who he took as a safety. I understand it's a business, but with it being a business, honesty is all I'm asking for." The main issue for Mays? Carroll's implication that Mays didn't have anything to worry about entering the draft. "That my game was OK," Mays said. "That my backpedal was fine, my tackling was fine, it was all the things that I asked, what do I need to work on, what do I need to show all these points? I was kind of led to think I was OK. It is what it is, and I'm so happy to be with the 49ers on the team Ronnie Lott played on." Carroll was asked about Mays' comments after the conclusion of the third round Friday night. "Well, first off, I love Taylor," Carroll said. "I love the player that he is, and we were thinking that we would have a terrific chance to get him somewhere." Carroll said it was the matter of Seattle getting a player it thought would be chosen as high as seventh overall. "I'd like to pick all my guys, but it just didn't work out," Carroll said. "Unfortunately for Taylor, it was a hard day for him." A year ago, Mays was projected as a potential top-15 pick had he entered the draft after his junior season. "His expectations were very, very high," Carroll said, "and mine, too. So I feel for him. But I know what he's going to be like. ... This is a remarkably competitive guy, and prideful, and I'm sure he's got a chip on his shoulder, and it's going to serve him well. "It's not going to help us in the division."
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04-24-2010, 04:13 PM	#8
kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	i thought Pete Carroll is the coach that shouldnt coach at the NFL level. NOw these same guys are saying he's drafting great? Get the **** outta here.
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04-24-2010, 04:15 PM	#9
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	Drafting isn't coaching, dipshit. He's still an awful gameday coach, and I don't know if his style is conducive to the NFL. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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04-24-2010, 04:16 PM	#11
HotRoute Veteran Join Date: Aug 2009 Casino cash: $9605656	pete knew that earl thomas is going to be just as productive as any safety in this draft, except for berry
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04-24-2010, 04:19 PM	#13
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9705405	It's more than just the draft. The acquisitions of Lendale White and Leon Washington for basically nothing were top notch. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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04-24-2010, 04:27 PM	#14
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	They had a great draft. I've been a big fan of Kam Chancellor for a long time and obviously of Tate. McCoy was a good pickup as well. Taylor Mays is no different, I'm sure, than Jimmy Clausen, Tate, Sam Young & Eric Olsen. I'm sure all of them thought that we'd draft them at some point, but sometimes people hear what they want to.
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04-24-2010, 07:08 PM	#15
HotRoute Veteran Join Date: Aug 2009 Casino cash: $9605656	does anyone think that j.clausen will hold a grudge over weis not picking him up like t.mays is holding over pete carrol. i definately would.
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