Football Sack Leaders by Franchise

**Rain Man** · 10-05-2011, 07:35 PM

This is kind of interesting. It's a list of the sack leaders for each franchise.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...content.1.html

Many are not surprising, but some are. My surprises (obviously many are the result of sacks not being an official stat until 1982):

Strahan is the Giants' sack leader, not Lawrence Taylor.

Greg Townsend is the Raiders' sack leader? That's not very impressive. I would've guessed Long, though in retrospect they've never had a big sack artist.

Simon Fletcher is the Broncos' all-time sack leader? How embarrassing. I would've guessed Mecklenburg.

Who would've guessed that Robert Porcher is the Lions' all-time leader? I'm not sure who I would've even guessed, though, which is sad.

Out of all the Cowboys' stars, Jim Jeffcoat is their leader. I would've guessed Too Tall Jones or maybe Charles Haley or Bob Lilly or someone.

The Rams - Leonard Little? Really? Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen would eat that guy for lunch (with a few martinis).

Buccaneers - Warren Sapp, not Lee Roy Selmon

Steelers - You'll never guess. Never in a million years. Not Joe Greene. Not Dwight White. Not LC Greenwood. Not Kevin Greene. Not Chad Brown. Not Greg Lloyd. Not ... anyone else. It's Jason Gildon.

Packers - Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila. Yeah, like you would've ever guessed that.

And the Bengals' record holder? It can be no other besides the incomparable Eddie Edwards.

CHENZ A! · 10-05-2011, 07:41 PM

I NEVER would've guessed that Pittsburgh one.

**notorious** · 10-05-2011, 07:44 PM

A lot of those guys owned on Tecmo Super Bowl.

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2011, 07:47 PM

Jim Jeffcoat was a surprise. Ware will have that record perhaps by season's end.

Barret · 10-05-2011, 07:53 PM

....And at the 26th spot Is Terrell Suggs. Wait a second, who is he sacking in this picture??? Bwahahahaha!!!!!

milkman · 10-05-2011, 08:01 PM

These records are really kind of meaningless, given, as was pointed out in the OP that sacks have ony been an official record for only about 25-26 years.

Edit:1982, so 29 years.

milkman · 10-05-2011, 08:03 PM

BTW, Karl Mecklinberg was an overrated player.

**Rain Man** · 10-05-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

These records are really kind of meaningless, given, as was pointed out in the OP that sacks have ony been an official record for only about 25-26 years.

Edit:1982, so 29 years.

I'm kind of curious why the teams or the league don't go back and watch the film of older games to get good sack stats on earlier generations. I doubt that comprehensive films are available prior to the early 70s or maybe the mid 60s at best, but even at that it'd still add a lot of good players to the records. It's too bad that we don't have stats for guys like Deacon Jones and Bob Lilly and Bubba Smith and Buck Buchanan and Bobby Bell and other players who should be in these discussions.

milkman · 10-05-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm kind of curious why the teams or the league don't go back and watch the film of older games to get good sack stats on earlier generations. I doubt that comprehensive films are available prior to the early 70s or maybe the mid 60s at best, but even at that it'd still add a lot of good players to the records.

I believe it's called apathy.

**Rain Man** · 10-05-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I believe it's called apathy.

We should do this, at least for the Chiefs. I wonder how we could get the films.

aturnis · 10-05-2011, 08:15 PM

Most of you would be surprised to see that Matt Cassel is Kansas City's sack leader...

milkman · 10-05-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

We should do this, at least for the Chiefs. I wonder how we could get the films.

For the Chiefs, I don't think you'd find any surprising info.

DT's number would stand up as the franchise record.

A couple of guys would be moved down the list because Bobby Bell would be up around 80-90.

Aaron Brown would probably be in there with about 40.

**Rain Man** · 10-05-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

For the Chiefs, I don't think you'd find any surprising info.

DT's number would stand up as the franchise record.

A couple of guys would be moved down the list because Bobby Bell would be up around 80-90.

Aaron Brown would probably be in there with about 40.

You think Bell would have that many? I was young and barely got to see the Golden Era Chiefs, but my general impression is that linebackers didn't blitz very much back then. I would've guessed that Jerry Mays and Buck Buchanan would be the leaders, with somewhere between 50 and 80. I wouldn't have guessed that any of the linebackers would be above 50 just because they didn't rush that much, as witnessed by their high numbers of interceptions.

milkman · 10-05-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

You think Bell would have that many? I was young and barely got to see the Golden Era Chiefs, but my general impression is that linebackers didn't blitz very much back then. I would've guessed that Jerry Mays and Buck Buchanan would be the leaders, with somewhere between 50 and 80. I wouldn't have guessed that any of the linebackers would be above 50 just because they didn't rush that much, as witnessed by their high numbers of interceptions.

Bell didn't blitz a great deal, but when he did he was as effective at it as any LB I've ever seen.

Stram knew he was a guy with exceptional rush skillls, so he did try to utilize those skills about 3 to 5 time a game.

milkman · 10-05-2011, 08:55 PM

The other thing to remember about Bell was that is Hank's stack defense, he would sometimes initially line up as a DE, then drop back to LB as the defense adjusted to what they saw from the offense presnap.

But he would rush from both positions.

When he dropped back into the LB position, the Chiefs were essentially the first team to use a 3-4 alignment in professional football.

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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	The other thing to remember about Bell was that is Hank's stack defense, he would sometimes initially line up as a DE, then drop back to LB as the defense adjusted to what they saw from the offense presnap. But he would rush from both positions. When he dropped back into the LB position, the Chiefs were essentially the first team to use a 3-4 alignment in professional football. __________________
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